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the smoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8 1947.

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the army air force's has announced that

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a flying disk has been found and is now

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in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fate to flag with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening fade to black how are you

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doing how you doing

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uh yeah man how you doing

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today's wednesday february 16 2022 47

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days into the new year only 318 days

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of nowhere a total

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but it is beautiful in here

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made all the more beautiful today what

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how are you doing

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how you doing i would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the united states

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hither and tither to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south far and near this is fade to

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black for kjcr the game changer and on x

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networks i'm your host jimmy church what

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is kraken

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how you doing tonight very special guest

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james fox

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yeah man tomorrow night is another fader

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how do we top

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the last show

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you top it

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with this show

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it's what we do

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man stephen owen that is uh

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that's one of my favorite gifts of all

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time right there dime bag

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if you ever have access to my

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secret stuff and you need passwords

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just uh start going down the pantera

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song list and uh you'll figure

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everything out but then you got to get

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the the numbers right then you got to

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get the special characters right and you

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know and i got my way of doing things

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yeah man and that's it that i remember

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much here but let's say i was at

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a financial advisor's an institution uh

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in the op right and and they were like

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um uh you need to create a password

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that go not a pantera fan

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pantera and i was like okay that's a

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tonight james fox is here

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um i'm going to start right there james

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fox tomorrow night is fader night with

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open lines all night long got a lot to

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uh working on his new film and right

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we're gonna talk about that tonight and

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a whole lot more james fox is here

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man you guys what is you guys are

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really i would love to look at that

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picture but when you click on it it's a

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thumbnail you need to you need to you

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you need the bigger one i can't can't

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see what's going on follow me on twitter

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at j church radio

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uh hello to everybody listening and

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watching all around the world and oh

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it's just over in the chat rooms saying

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hello to everybody and uh let's uh let's

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get this show cracking i'm very excited

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james uh doesn't do interviews that

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often i think that we all know that

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for a couple of weeks um to get things

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uh they are in the thick of it uh

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getting this uh next film done

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it's just been a phenomenal week on the

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last night lou did his uh his drive-by

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and what a great conversation that was

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and i loved all the feedback uh which uh

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um that uh and and i would say that

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same thing that was uh that was the best

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appreciated that and we're going to do

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all right all right let's uh let's get

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rocking here

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news the us space agency nasa wearing my

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nasa shirt tonight uh for this right see

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nasa shirt represent

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nasa has released the first picture

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captured by its new imaging x-ray pola

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polarimetry how do you get a polar e

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the ixpe everybody which launched back

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in december to explore and uncover more

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about black holes the depiction of the

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remains of a supernova cassiopeia

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facebook today it's an incredible shot

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you need to go and check that out that

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so cool all right now

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deepest depths

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its core is solid iron

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right the inner core is solid iron

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well now it's it is made of pure iron

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and now scientists say it might not even

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be solid either

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simulations by a team of researchers in

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china suggest our planet's innards

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are somewhere between solid and liquid

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in a super ionic state

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the research has published in the

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journal nature

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you he as his name a physicist at the

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chinese academy of sciences and

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co-author of the study

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said the calculations were a new

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starting point to understand the inner

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you he and his colleagues found the

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inner core creates a supraionic state

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and it's unlike any solid or liquid form

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and that's insanity

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don't know what's it we don't know

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nothing about the inner core nobody's

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that's all it is your theory about the

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inner core is as valid as anybody else's

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being serious about that all right a

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micro meteorite colliding with the

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satellite caused a seven hour internet

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the impact made the satellite's body

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while it remained in orbit

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and when that happens it's no longer

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pointing at the appropriate spot

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in australia think about what i'm saying

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the impact made the sad satellite uh

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unusable

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then able to recover itself

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right so i guess it's got a little

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you know something

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something to move it

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and then they tested it restarted the

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service and that took seven hours some

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customers went two weeks without an

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internet connection following the crash

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a micro meteorite

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all right in a paper

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published today in the journal nature

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researchers announced that a

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supermassive black hole about 15 million

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times the mass of our sun

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did you hear what i just said

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the mass of our sun and 47 million light

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years from earth

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is hiding

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behind the veil but they found it

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right in the center of galaxy messier 77

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it is shielded by a thick halo of cosmic

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dust that serves you know like a an

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enormous blackout curtain

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this ring hides the dangerous void while

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it gobbles up everything in sight

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it's a black hole sneak attack

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think about it you're just driving

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through you don't see nothing whoa

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we didn't see that coming

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yeah let's get this show cracking happy

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birthday to today

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oh gee def leper guitarist pete willis

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founder of the band by the way is 62

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years old and duran duran guitarist andy

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taylor

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is 61. our dead guy's birthday today

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sonny bono 1935 to 1998 yeah sunny of

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course

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he's a singer he's an actor politician

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songwriter

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and he was also the other half of sunny

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and cher

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he was also the mayor of palm springs

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california from 1988 to

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1992 and congressman for california's

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44th district from 1995 until his death

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in 1998. sonny died on january 5th 1998

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when he hit a tree while skiing at

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heavenly mountain resort in south lake

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tahoe california that was a shock or two

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when that went down

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happy birthday sonny bono on this day in

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history

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1923

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archaeologist howard carter enters the

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sealed burial chamber of the ancient

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egyptian ruler king

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tut

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that's right

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last night i was watching a documentary

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i think it was called i don't want to

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get this wrong king tut in color

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and so all of those photographs

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and uh film all colorized yeah it's

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pretty trippy pretty trippy to see and

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uh i just watched that last night today

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that's my otd

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that's the universe and that's

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everything that is connected as above so

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below i'm going to talk more about that

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saudi arabia

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is the largest country

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in the world

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that's right

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you didn't know that did you

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that is your fader fact tonight very

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special guest james fox is here

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he is in the middle of getting the

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production finished on his new

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documentary we'll be talking about that

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tonight and so much more tomorrow

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night's another fader night with open

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lines all night long also tomorrow

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i am uh gonna be over with uh christina

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gomez

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and another great show histories with

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the mystery tomorrow with uh christina

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you're not gonna want to miss that and

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now it's time for me to hit this river

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moon coffee hey that's my guitar

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that's uh

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that's that's look that guitar

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take a close look at what you just

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posted stephen

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that's the guitar that's hanging on the

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wall kiss sticker

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the little potly think sticker it's

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right there there it is there it is

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right there

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yeah man that's a nice playing guitar

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too and what's cool about this guitar

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it's identical to this

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the hardware the mismatched hardware the

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black hardware and the chrome hardware

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everything mixed up the nuts and bolts

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and

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pickup it's all right there it's all

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right there

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there she there she is it's a nice

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playing guitar too

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that's uh that's a cool shot

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that is

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the cool shot okay where am i what was i

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what was i

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oh man

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thinking about james fox um here's the

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deal as above so below

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i've been reading a book on alchemy

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let me get my thoughts together

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been reading a book on alchemy and

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when we hear

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or read

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things like

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as above so below

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you know

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and every derivative of it right you

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know to move forward you know first you

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must move back

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right

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to open your eyes

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you must first close them

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whatever you know it goes on and on you

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can apply it to anything

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and all of these things are easy to say

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they're even easier to think up

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because you can apply

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that concept

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this thought process

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from the tiniest particle

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to the vastness of the universe

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it's just too simple

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and it just doesn't make any sense right

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think about it

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you know and you know you see the old

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wise man in some movie

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serious movie comedy it doesn't matter

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some old wise man you know to

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to look up you must first look down it's

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like dude stop with that

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right okay

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all right and you can just apply to

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anything

402
00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:07,029
here's the big or

403
00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:09,280
because i'm going to say or or

404
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you know when we say it just doesn't

405
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make any sense it's just too simple

406
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right well

407
00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:20,149
or is that the answer

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is that the answer that everything

409
00:23:30,149 --> 00:23:26,080
absolutely everything is connected in

410
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such a basic simple way

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that

412
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this is the way

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for every positive there is a negative

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ones and zeros black and white

415
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right and we hear it all that for every

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action there's an equal and opposite

417
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reaction right here we go it's like

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everywhere you can apply it to

419
00:24:02,830 --> 00:23:59,360
everything

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00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:02,840
now trying to chase these

421
00:24:08,470 --> 00:24:06,480
things to find the answers

422
00:24:11,110 --> 00:24:08,480
is probably impossible

423
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you just can't do it

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00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:14,080
which is exactly the point

425
00:24:19,830 --> 00:24:17,279
how many alchemists throughout history

426
00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:19,840
lost their minds trying to figure things

427
00:24:22,710 --> 00:24:21,520
out

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00:24:24,789 --> 00:24:22,720
can't do it

429
00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:24,799
even more dramatic

430
00:24:31,029 --> 00:24:27,120
how many physicists

431
00:24:34,870 --> 00:24:31,039
have tried and still try

432
00:24:41,269 --> 00:24:38,390
can they do it well honestly

433
00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:41,279
probably not

434
00:24:47,669 --> 00:24:44,159
i heard brian green say recently

435
00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:47,679
that at the current pace

436
00:24:52,470 --> 00:24:49,360
they are working on string theory right

437
00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:52,480
now at the current pace string theory

438
00:25:00,149 --> 00:24:56,000
will get worked out in the next 50

439
00:25:02,549 --> 00:25:00,159
to 100 years

440
00:25:05,590 --> 00:25:02,559
if ever

441
00:25:09,110 --> 00:25:05,600
that's brian green speaking

442
00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:09,120
so can it be done is it impossible

443
00:25:13,350 --> 00:25:10,880
that's alchemy

444
00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:13,360
and it applies to anything it applies to

445
00:25:17,269 --> 00:25:15,600
anything it applies to physics it

446
00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:17,279
applies to the universe

447
00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:19,760
so if we go back to the you know the as

448
00:25:27,269 --> 00:25:22,880
above so below circle that you can apply

449
00:25:33,269 --> 00:25:30,789
if we take this view and apply it to say

450
00:25:35,190 --> 00:25:33,279
life after death

451
00:25:36,870 --> 00:25:35,200
psychic abilities

452
00:25:37,990 --> 00:25:36,880
remote viewing

453
00:25:39,510 --> 00:25:38,000
channeling

454
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:39,520
astrology

455
00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:41,440
all of it

456
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:43,440
that there is something out there that

457
00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:47,200
we don't understand but it is real

458
00:25:51,909 --> 00:25:49,200
and it's all connected

459
00:25:54,070 --> 00:25:51,919
how does the average person if we take

460
00:25:56,470 --> 00:25:54,080
this thought process this thought

461
00:25:58,789 --> 00:25:56,480
experiment if we just lay it out there

462
00:25:59,669 --> 00:25:58,799
how does the average person know about

463
00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:59,679
it

464
00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:01,200
i'm talking about the average person

465
00:26:08,390 --> 00:26:04,960
somebody outside of our community

466
00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:08,400
does something happen in their life

467
00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:10,960
that opens up their eyes

468
00:26:13,350 --> 00:26:11,840
right

469
00:26:15,510 --> 00:26:13,360
they're not listening to fade to black

470
00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:15,520
they're not reading books on alchemy

471
00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:17,200
they're not chasing down these things

472
00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:19,440
they don't even think about it

473
00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:21,840
so does something happen if all of this

474
00:26:26,789 --> 00:26:24,400
applies as above so below if this is

475
00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:26,799
going on throughout the universe and you

476
00:26:30,950 --> 00:26:28,960
got brian green and string theory and

477
00:26:35,430 --> 00:26:30,960
trying to connect all of these dots and

478
00:26:39,909 --> 00:26:37,510
is there something that would happen in

479
00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:39,919
the average person's life

480
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:43,520
to open up their eyes where they just go

481
00:26:53,269 --> 00:26:49,750
i think that it's an adult

482
00:26:55,029 --> 00:26:53,279
after living life a certain way

483
00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:55,039
it becomes more difficult to have

484
00:26:58,710 --> 00:26:56,960
fundamental changes

485
00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:58,720
it does and i think that we all

486
00:27:02,950 --> 00:27:00,240
understand this

487
00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:02,960
that's why i keep looking back to when i

488
00:27:08,149 --> 00:27:05,200
was a small child and i talk about this

489
00:27:11,110 --> 00:27:08,159
often and this is the reason why

490
00:27:13,590 --> 00:27:11,120
you know what went on back then

491
00:27:17,190 --> 00:27:13,600
you know those important events that

492
00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:17,200
maybe showed themselves

493
00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:19,279
but we might not have understood

494
00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:22,480
right we're kids

495
00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:26,240
for me i always go back

496
00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:29,760
to those sunday mornings at the house

497
00:27:34,549 --> 00:27:32,320
and uh you know i'm seven years old six

498
00:27:35,669 --> 00:27:34,559
seven eight years old

499
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:35,679
and

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00:27:39,269 --> 00:27:38,000
sunday mornings parents are still in bed

501
00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:39,279
they're still in bed they're not they're

502
00:27:42,789 --> 00:27:41,440
not up yet but the kids you know my

503
00:27:44,470 --> 00:27:42,799
brothers and sisters were up at the

504
00:27:47,430 --> 00:27:44,480
crack of dawn

505
00:27:48,789 --> 00:27:47,440
and saturday mornings we had cartoons up

506
00:27:51,510 --> 00:27:48,799
early

507
00:27:54,070 --> 00:27:51,520
tvs on we're watching cartoons hr puff

508
00:27:56,789 --> 00:27:54,080
and stuff it's on right land of the lost

509
00:27:59,590 --> 00:27:58,070
serial

510
00:28:01,029 --> 00:27:59,600
sunday mornings we didn't have that we

511
00:28:02,710 --> 00:28:01,039
didn't have the cartoons but we still

512
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:02,720
got up early because the parents are in

513
00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:05,279
bed and we could terrorize the house

514
00:28:11,269 --> 00:28:08,880
and so on sunday mornings

515
00:28:13,990 --> 00:28:11,279
turning on the tv

516
00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:14,000
back then i don't know what goes on now

517
00:28:18,789 --> 00:28:16,640
because i don't have tv but

518
00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:18,799
you turn on a tv on sunday mornings back

519
00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:20,880
in the day

520
00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:24,080
all religious programmings every channel

521
00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:26,720
every channel

522
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:31,590
that's it

523
00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:34,480
and this is what would happen to me

524
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:37,200
this thing have you ever electrocuted

525
00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:38,240
yourself

526
00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:39,840
you ever done that like stuck your

527
00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:42,480
finger in a light socket or

528
00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:45,600
or a broken you know and you just

529
00:28:48,470 --> 00:28:47,120
right you shock yourself have you ever

530
00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:48,480
done that i have

531
00:28:51,909 --> 00:28:49,440
well

532
00:28:54,389 --> 00:28:51,919
that's what would happen to me

533
00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:54,399
on sunday mornings

534
00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:56,960
and and i figured it out

535
00:29:00,789 --> 00:28:58,880
very quickly

536
00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:00,799
that

537
00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:03,760
i this thing would happen

538
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:10,230
when religious programming was on on

539
00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:11,760
sunday mornings

540
00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:13,840
and it was only sundays it wasn't

541
00:29:18,389 --> 00:29:15,760
saturday with the cartoons it wasn't any

542
00:29:19,510 --> 00:29:18,399
day before school and no it was sunday

543
00:29:20,950 --> 00:29:19,520
mornings

544
00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:20,960
and that tv turned on there was

545
00:29:25,590 --> 00:29:24,080
religious pride look right and

546
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:25,600
and

547
00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:30,000
whatever was happening to me

548
00:29:33,510 --> 00:29:30,880
that i

549
00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:33,520
made sure i wouldn't look at the tv

550
00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:36,480
you know it happened enough

551
00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:38,080
let's think about that for a second

552
00:29:42,789 --> 00:29:40,240
let's analyze

553
00:29:45,269 --> 00:29:42,799
what was actually going on because i

554
00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:45,279
can't explain it today

555
00:29:49,590 --> 00:29:46,480
but

556
00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:49,600
is this the connected universe

557
00:29:54,789 --> 00:29:52,080
is this something that was happening to

558
00:29:56,310 --> 00:29:54,799
me from out there have others been

559
00:29:58,630 --> 00:29:56,320
through this

560
00:30:00,710 --> 00:29:58,640
have others experienced it

561
00:30:02,789 --> 00:30:00,720
um now was it tied to the religious

562
00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:02,799
programming i tied it to the religious

563
00:30:06,789 --> 00:30:05,520
programming but it probably wasn't but i

564
00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:06,799
did

565
00:30:09,269 --> 00:30:07,679
um

566
00:30:11,190 --> 00:30:09,279
and was at the universe telling me not

567
00:30:12,070 --> 00:30:11,200
to watch religious programming right

568
00:30:14,789 --> 00:30:12,080
that's a

569
00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:14,799
it's an easy deduction to come to but

570
00:30:18,549 --> 00:30:17,120
i'm not suggesting that

571
00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:18,559
specifically

572
00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:20,640
but it was only on sundays and it was

573
00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:22,559
only on sunday mornings

574
00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:24,960
that is something

575
00:30:34,789 --> 00:30:33,190
connect that some electrical enters

576
00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:34,799
something

577
00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:38,640
from the universe that you can't explain

578
00:30:43,510 --> 00:30:40,880
and physics and science would have a

579
00:30:44,950 --> 00:30:43,520
tough time explaining that some medical

580
00:30:47,590 --> 00:30:44,960
condition no

581
00:30:49,590 --> 00:30:47,600
no it was only on sunday mornings it

582
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:49,600
wasn't during the mid the middle of the

583
00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:51,760
day in class in school it wasn't from

584
00:30:55,029 --> 00:30:53,440
diet or this

585
00:30:58,070 --> 00:30:55,039
none of those things

586
00:30:59,509 --> 00:30:58,080
and uh once i got away from that it

587
00:31:01,990 --> 00:30:59,519
stopped

588
00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:02,000
you know and it was only for that that

589
00:31:08,310 --> 00:31:05,039
couple of year period and specifically

590
00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:08,320
you know i i know the the the apartment

591
00:31:13,029 --> 00:31:11,440
that we were in when this went down so i

592
00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:13,039
think back

593
00:31:21,190 --> 00:31:18,149
does why doesn't it happen to me as an

594
00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:21,200
adult i can't explain that

595
00:31:27,269 --> 00:31:24,480
is it because your brain you haven't

596
00:31:29,029 --> 00:31:27,279
grown up yet you haven't

597
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:29,039
lived life

598
00:31:33,509 --> 00:31:31,360
and that you are shown these things

599
00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:33,519
these things are there when you're a

600
00:31:36,710 --> 00:31:35,039
child

601
00:31:38,789 --> 00:31:36,720
because as an adult we wouldn't look at

602
00:31:41,909 --> 00:31:38,799
it that way is that it

603
00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:41,919
i think that is a very special event and

604
00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:43,200
i

605
00:31:57,210 --> 00:31:53,919
to move forward

606
00:31:58,870 --> 00:31:57,220
you must first move back

607
00:32:03,430 --> 00:31:58,880
[Laughter]

608
00:32:09,269 --> 00:32:07,290
to turn left you must first turn right

609
00:32:10,710 --> 00:32:09,279
[Laughter]

610
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this is fate to black i'm real jimmy

611
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church tonight james fox

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tomorrow night fader night with open

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tonight's show the director's cut i'll

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

707
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you're listening to jimmy

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00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:51,829
what's up i'm chris what up this is kyle

709
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matson you're listening to jimmy church

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radio

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[Music]

712
00:37:14,390 --> 00:37:11,670
all right welcome back fade to the block

713
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i'm in the middle jimmy church

714
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on the game changer and an x networks

715
00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:20,800
how do you top your last show

716
00:37:24,550 --> 00:37:23,040
you do it with this one tonight james

717
00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:24,560
fox is here

718
00:37:27,829 --> 00:37:25,920
we've got a lot of stuff that we're

719
00:37:29,349 --> 00:37:27,839
going to cover tonight and i just want

720
00:37:31,829 --> 00:37:29,359
to get straight to it

721
00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:31,839
uh he was born in england native of

722
00:37:36,870 --> 00:37:34,160
california he's now on the east coast he

723
00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:36,880
began his journalism career uh assisting

724
00:37:41,270 --> 00:37:38,800
his father charles fox he was a writer

725
00:37:43,670 --> 00:37:41,280
and uh doing all that cool stuff car and

726
00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:43,680
driver sports illustrated driving around

727
00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:44,400
and

728
00:37:47,670 --> 00:37:46,079
hanging out with all those uh cool

729
00:37:49,349 --> 00:37:47,680
people in the automotive and sports

730
00:37:51,349 --> 00:37:49,359
world he finished and sold his first

731
00:37:53,670 --> 00:37:51,359
documentary to discovery by the time he

732
00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:53,680
was just 28 years old

733
00:37:57,670 --> 00:37:55,680
he has since completed and distributed

734
00:38:00,390 --> 00:37:57,680
tv products for sci-fi the learning

735
00:38:02,790 --> 00:38:00,400
channel nat geo history channel

736
00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:02,800
and uh of course we all know

737
00:38:06,790 --> 00:38:04,800
all of those frequent appearances on

738
00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:06,800
larry king live nightline dateline

739
00:38:10,710 --> 00:38:08,640
anderson cooper and others his

740
00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:10,720
documentaries out of the blue i know

741
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:12,640
what i saw and the phenomenon are some

742
00:38:16,069 --> 00:38:14,960
of the most respected films on the ufo

743
00:38:17,349 --> 00:38:16,079
subject

744
00:38:20,630 --> 00:38:17,359
and of course you can go to the

745
00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:20,640
phenomenon film.com if you are the last

746
00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:23,359
person on earth that hasn't seen that

747
00:38:28,150 --> 00:38:25,280
film and i would like to welcome back to

748
00:38:30,390 --> 00:38:28,160
fade to black james fox james good

749
00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:30,400
evening young man busy

750
00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:32,560
thank you for having me on it i i would

751
00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:34,960
have said no if it was anybody else yeah

752
00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:37,920
yeah yeah yeah this was uh

753
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:39,680
this was a lot of work man you made me

754
00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:44,829
you made me work for this one

755
00:38:46,870 --> 00:38:46,160
um uh

756
00:38:47,910 --> 00:38:46,880
we

757
00:38:49,910 --> 00:38:47,920
uh

758
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:49,920
okay i'm just gonna say this

759
00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:52,240
this is fox's conversation with me

760
00:38:56,150 --> 00:38:53,920
earlier today on the phone he's like

761
00:38:58,870 --> 00:38:56,160
church i've got george lucas at the

762
00:39:02,550 --> 00:38:58,880
house i've got spielberg coming by later

763
00:39:03,990 --> 00:39:02,560
i'm really busy man and and i've got

764
00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:04,000
stuff to do

765
00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:06,640
um i'm just i'm just doing you a solid i

766
00:39:10,950 --> 00:39:09,119
was like okay man i i appreciate that

767
00:39:12,790 --> 00:39:10,960
james and uh you know i don't want i

768
00:39:15,030 --> 00:39:12,800
don't want to upset the great james fox

769
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:15,040
these days um

770
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:17,520
you're you're a busy guy and and i want

771
00:39:21,430 --> 00:39:19,200
to start here

772
00:39:22,870 --> 00:39:21,440
and all seriousness aside everybody

773
00:39:24,550 --> 00:39:22,880
knows i'm just kidding

774
00:39:27,510 --> 00:39:24,560
but uh

775
00:39:29,910 --> 00:39:27,520
are you challenged by the success of the

776
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:29,920
phenomenon

777
00:39:33,910 --> 00:39:31,920
you know

778
00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:33,920
i wanted to

779
00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:36,079
take advantage of

780
00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:38,800
the spotlight the brief moment that i've

781
00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:40,960
that i've had with the phenomenon and

782
00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:43,520
and continue the momentum

783
00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:44,640
and

784
00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:46,400
there's a lot happening there's a lot

785
00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:47,680
unfolding

786
00:39:51,270 --> 00:39:48,720
uh

787
00:39:54,310 --> 00:39:51,280
it's hard to keep up

788
00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:54,320
and i challenged myself in the sense

789
00:39:57,910 --> 00:39:55,200
that

790
00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:57,920
i've never turned a film around in this

791
00:40:02,950 --> 00:40:00,960
record short period of time like eight

792
00:40:04,309 --> 00:40:02,960
nine months it's always taken me four i

793
00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:04,319
mean the phenomenon took me the better

794
00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:06,400
part of eight years from concept to

795
00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:07,520
completion

796
00:40:12,309 --> 00:40:10,240
i'm doing a film now i can announce the

797
00:40:14,390 --> 00:40:12,319
title for the first time ever

798
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:14,400
moment of contact

799
00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:16,720
um

800
00:40:20,390 --> 00:40:18,480
i know it kind of screams at me

801
00:40:22,230 --> 00:40:20,400
throughout the the film i say it a

802
00:40:24,390 --> 00:40:22,240
number of times on camera and i was like

803
00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:24,400
that's i like the ring of that one so

804
00:40:27,829 --> 00:40:25,920
moment of contact

805
00:40:30,230 --> 00:40:27,839
on the virginia ufo incident that

806
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:30,240
happened in 1996 and we're turning

807
00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:31,920
around from from

808
00:40:37,829 --> 00:40:35,520
pretty much filming to edit in in eight

809
00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:37,839
nine months and so that's a tremendous

810
00:40:41,349 --> 00:40:39,680
amount of pressure

811
00:40:44,950 --> 00:40:41,359
and i know that there are high

812
00:40:47,670 --> 00:40:44,960
expectations but i'm sort of

813
00:40:49,750 --> 00:40:47,680
trying to invent a new formula that

814
00:40:51,109 --> 00:40:49,760
would allow me to put out

815
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:51,119
content

816
00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:54,640
in a much more expedited way and i think

817
00:40:59,030 --> 00:40:56,640
i found that formula

818
00:41:02,150 --> 00:40:59,040
and i'm applying it and and i'm working

819
00:41:02,870 --> 00:41:02,160
17 hour days i mean i told jimmy i was

820
00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:02,880
like

821
00:41:08,309 --> 00:41:06,000
jimmy i haven't shaved in a week i'm all

822
00:41:10,790 --> 00:41:08,319
i'm working 17-hour days i'm not kidding

823
00:41:13,750 --> 00:41:10,800
yesterday was like almost 20 hours a day

824
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:13,760
and um i don't i'm in no you know state

825
00:41:15,910 --> 00:41:14,560
to be

826
00:41:18,069 --> 00:41:15,920
he's like it's okay

827
00:41:19,750 --> 00:41:18,079
it's just audio only i'm like okay we

828
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:19,760
can do that you don't have to shave for

829
00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:20,960
fade to black you don't have to brush

830
00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:22,880
your teeth you don't even have to take a

831
00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:25,680
breath mint you know and

832
00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:27,119
but but

833
00:41:30,710 --> 00:41:28,640
um

834
00:41:31,910 --> 00:41:30,720
the reason why i asked such a direct

835
00:41:33,349 --> 00:41:31,920
question

836
00:41:35,109 --> 00:41:33,359
is because

837
00:41:37,270 --> 00:41:35,119
the reception

838
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:37,280
that the phenomenon had

839
00:41:41,990 --> 00:41:39,760
it was deserved because quite frankly

840
00:41:43,270 --> 00:41:42,000
was just a fantastic film and it was the

841
00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:43,280
subjects

842
00:41:47,190 --> 00:41:45,520
it was the editing it was the

843
00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:47,200
cinematography

844
00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:49,359
it was the music

845
00:41:55,030 --> 00:41:52,079
ev it was the complete package

846
00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:55,040
now you have to you can't you can't come

847
00:42:00,150 --> 00:41:56,400
out below that

848
00:42:02,630 --> 00:42:00,160
right everybody now has an expectation

849
00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:02,640
of of something much better now you've

850
00:42:07,109 --> 00:42:04,400
got a great subject

851
00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:07,119
this time around but you've also got to

852
00:42:10,790 --> 00:42:08,880
deliver on all of the other fronts you

853
00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:10,800
don't have a choice do you

854
00:42:14,790 --> 00:42:11,920
well

855
00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:14,800
the the the advantage i have now

856
00:42:20,309 --> 00:42:18,079
is that i've i always prior to this

857
00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:20,319
wanted to create the seminal feature

858
00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:22,319
length documentary on the topic to

859
00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:23,839
establish

860
00:42:28,390 --> 00:42:26,800
the reality that of the phenomenon and i

861
00:42:29,750 --> 00:42:28,400
think i've accomplished that with the

862
00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:29,760
phenomenon

863
00:42:33,589 --> 00:42:32,640
and so

864
00:42:42,550 --> 00:42:33,599
on

865
00:42:44,230 --> 00:42:42,560
forward with cases without having to do

866
00:42:47,349 --> 00:42:44,240
all the historical stuff that i've had

867
00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:47,359
to do in prior films so

868
00:42:51,030 --> 00:42:49,359
that is a tremendous relief i remember

869
00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:51,040
getting through the last

870
00:42:55,270 --> 00:42:52,880
you know history lesson

871
00:42:57,589 --> 00:42:55,280
because i kept saying if i could

872
00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:57,599
penetrate a much broader more mainstream

873
00:43:00,470 --> 00:42:59,119
audience

874
00:43:01,750 --> 00:43:00,480
i i

875
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:01,760
i'm going to have to assume that they

876
00:43:07,990 --> 00:43:04,480
don't have the background

877
00:43:10,630 --> 00:43:08,000
of the phenomenon and

878
00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:10,640
would find cases close encounters of the

879
00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:12,880
third kind like africa

880
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:14,640
and um

881
00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:15,520
uh

882
00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:18,560
the socorro 1964 case of close encounter

883
00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:21,599
of the third kind uh too

884
00:43:27,030 --> 00:43:24,640
unbelievable to to accept i think i've

885
00:43:28,870 --> 00:43:27,040
surpassed that now so i'm going i'm

886
00:43:31,270 --> 00:43:28,880
moving forward on the assumption that

887
00:43:33,910 --> 00:43:31,280
that that my audience recognizes the

888
00:43:35,030 --> 00:43:33,920
phenomenon is real and i can delve into

889
00:43:36,069 --> 00:43:35,040
much more

890
00:43:41,190 --> 00:43:36,079
uh

891
00:43:43,030 --> 00:43:41,200
crazy sound in cases like virginia i

892
00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:43,040
mean i don't know if your audience is

893
00:43:49,349 --> 00:43:46,480
familiar with we are we all are and and

894
00:43:51,829 --> 00:43:49,359
this uh as far as cases go

895
00:43:55,030 --> 00:43:51,839
where you're able to do the deep dive

896
00:43:56,870 --> 00:43:55,040
and bring information out uh

897
00:43:58,790 --> 00:43:56,880
that is fresh to everybody that's the

898
00:44:01,829 --> 00:43:58,800
perfect case to do this

899
00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:01,839
um and and then being able to

900
00:44:05,430 --> 00:44:04,560
uh go on location go down with the film

901
00:44:09,109 --> 00:44:05,440
crew

902
00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:09,119
and and get it done uh but before i i

903
00:44:12,870 --> 00:44:11,359
want to talk about uh moment of contact

904
00:44:13,750 --> 00:44:12,880
in just a second

905
00:44:16,470 --> 00:44:13,760
but

906
00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:16,480
you did bring up to me

907
00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:21,109
okay i'm gonna say it like this it is

908
00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:22,720
important to break outside of the

909
00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:24,720
community to get this message out to a

910
00:44:29,270 --> 00:44:26,560
broader audience to get it out there to

911
00:44:31,750 --> 00:44:29,280
the rest of the world that is the goal

912
00:44:33,750 --> 00:44:31,760
to do because this community

913
00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:33,760
is always going to receive the film and

914
00:44:36,790 --> 00:44:34,720
you're always going to have that

915
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:36,800
built-in audience it's getting out

916
00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:38,079
beyond that

917
00:44:42,069 --> 00:44:39,040
and

918
00:44:44,790 --> 00:44:42,079
that was a question you asked me about

919
00:44:47,109 --> 00:44:44,800
my film the observers you said jimmy did

920
00:44:50,230 --> 00:44:47,119
you get out beyond the community right

921
00:44:52,950 --> 00:44:50,240
and that was it so that is on your mind

922
00:44:54,750 --> 00:44:52,960
is that also the continued goal for

923
00:44:56,510 --> 00:44:54,760
moment of contact

924
00:45:00,870 --> 00:44:56,520
absolutely

925
00:45:03,270 --> 00:45:00,880
we've had

926
00:45:05,109 --> 00:45:03,280
i remember reading articles and podcasts

927
00:45:07,190 --> 00:45:05,119
in the new yorker the new york times

928
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:07,200
talking about crash debris

929
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:08,400
bodies

930
00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:10,480
uh i never thought in my lifetime i

931
00:45:12,630 --> 00:45:11,680
would hear

932
00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:12,640
uh

933
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:13,440
news

934
00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:15,520
from credible sources intelligence

935
00:45:18,550 --> 00:45:16,560
agencies

936
00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:18,560
uh you know senators

937
00:45:22,790 --> 00:45:19,920
um

938
00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:22,800
talking openly about crash debris

939
00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:25,200
recovered crash debris and and and

940
00:45:29,670 --> 00:45:27,599
bodies i that's astonishing to me i mean

941
00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:29,680
that's going down a rather slippery

942
00:45:33,349 --> 00:45:32,400
slope and this case deals with exactly

943
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:33,359
that

944
00:45:39,910 --> 00:45:37,440
and and one of the things i think the

945
00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:39,920
future audience is going to

946
00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:41,920
discover in this production

947
00:45:44,790 --> 00:45:43,520
and this is something that

948
00:45:46,870 --> 00:45:44,800
that i

949
00:45:49,270 --> 00:45:46,880
slowly came to terms with was that the

950
00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:49,280
americans were very

951
00:45:54,069 --> 00:45:51,520
profoundly involved with the virginia

952
00:45:57,109 --> 00:45:54,079
case and i asked that to every

953
00:46:00,309 --> 00:45:57,119
military civilian

954
00:46:02,390 --> 00:46:00,319
researcher in brazil

955
00:46:05,270 --> 00:46:02,400
where did this stuff go

956
00:46:08,069 --> 00:46:05,280
and they all said immediately the united

957
00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:08,079
states we've got military witnesses that

958
00:46:13,510 --> 00:46:10,240
saw unusual activity from

959
00:46:17,589 --> 00:46:16,230
governing bodies uh united states in

960
00:46:18,309 --> 00:46:17,599
particular

961
00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:18,319
at

962
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:21,359
specific bases and so

963
00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:24,480
it's it's it it implicates the united

964
00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:25,680
states

965
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:28,400
this case although it happened in brazil

966
00:46:32,630 --> 00:46:30,960
uh implicates the united states because

967
00:46:34,630 --> 00:46:32,640
the united states came in and i even

968
00:46:37,030 --> 00:46:34,640
know what military bases they landed the

969
00:46:38,630 --> 00:46:37,040
dates they landed and uh and they

970
00:46:40,710 --> 00:46:38,640
recovered i don't know what deal they

971
00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:40,720
made with the brazilians but they they

972
00:46:48,069 --> 00:46:42,880
recovered the debris and and the bodies

973
00:46:51,349 --> 00:46:49,750
i know i know i don't expect anyone to

974
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:51,359
believe me just wait wait for the film

975
00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:52,400
to come out

976
00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:54,240
because i didn't believe it either so

977
00:47:00,950 --> 00:46:56,720
well when i ask you know what is the

978
00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:00,960
update of the film um i'm gonna frame uh

979
00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:03,680
this next series of questions inside of

980
00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:05,200
that which is

981
00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:08,400
do you feel that uh going down with

982
00:47:11,349 --> 00:47:10,400
cameras rolling

983
00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:11,359
that

984
00:47:18,150 --> 00:47:15,440
the brazilian military current or past

985
00:47:19,349 --> 00:47:18,160
uh you know retired whatever um that

986
00:47:21,349 --> 00:47:19,359
they are

987
00:47:23,349 --> 00:47:21,359
that they were open to you and they

988
00:47:25,990 --> 00:47:23,359
didn't feel

989
00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:26,000
blocked was it an open communication or

990
00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:28,960
did you still have to work at it

991
00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:31,040
so some of them were

992
00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:36,630
mayor

993
00:47:41,349 --> 00:47:39,200
um

994
00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:41,359
on camera for the first time an elected

995
00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:43,119
official

996
00:47:47,589 --> 00:47:44,720
admitting that

997
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:47,599
he felt that the incident did happen

998
00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:50,000
believe in the witness testimony talking

999
00:47:54,230 --> 00:47:51,200
about the

1000
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:54,240
the secrecy that followed um

1001
00:47:57,750 --> 00:47:55,440
the incident

1002
00:47:59,910 --> 00:47:57,760
um that was unprecedented he

1003
00:48:01,430 --> 00:47:59,920
i remember like sitting down with him

1004
00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:01,440
you know he was going through security

1005
00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:03,040
to get to his office and it was a big

1006
00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:04,960
deal he was the city mayor of virginia

1007
00:48:08,630 --> 00:48:06,400
sure and he was openly talking about

1008
00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:08,640
this and i thought to myself

1009
00:48:13,270 --> 00:48:11,040
gosh this guy is incredibly receptive to

1010
00:48:15,030 --> 00:48:13,280
our presence here investigations and

1011
00:48:16,549 --> 00:48:15,040
everything that's happening

1012
00:48:17,829 --> 00:48:16,559
and um

1013
00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:17,839
i asked him if he could pick up his

1014
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:19,680
phone and make a few phone calls for us

1015
00:48:23,829 --> 00:48:21,839
and he did and he gave us access to some

1016
00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:23,839
other politicians some witnesses that

1017
00:48:28,790 --> 00:48:25,920
have never

1018
00:48:30,069 --> 00:48:28,800
never been found

1019
00:48:33,190 --> 00:48:30,079
and

1020
00:48:34,390 --> 00:48:33,200
but paralleling that effort there was

1021
00:48:36,630 --> 00:48:34,400
because i was quite

1022
00:48:39,589 --> 00:48:36,640
public about it i mean i was on news

1023
00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:39,599
stations and i did some podcasts and

1024
00:48:42,630 --> 00:48:40,880
and uh

1025
00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:42,640
there were witnesses that we were

1026
00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:44,160
speaking with this will come out in the

1027
00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:46,720
movie that we were speaking with

1028
00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:48,640
and managed to get on camera for the

1029
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:50,160
first time in history that were at

1030
00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:53,040
certain military bases and the

1031
00:48:57,270 --> 00:48:55,520
the heads of those military bases were

1032
00:48:58,950 --> 00:48:57,280
within days reaching out to the

1033
00:49:01,670 --> 00:48:58,960
individuals that we had just met with

1034
00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:01,680
asking questions about this

1035
00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:05,119
uh production that was doing a film on

1036
00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:06,240
the case

1037
00:49:09,190 --> 00:49:07,680
had they heard anything about us had

1038
00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:09,200
they met with us and of course they said

1039
00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:10,079
no

1040
00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:11,760
um but they were they were hip to what

1041
00:49:17,510 --> 00:49:14,079
we were doing and and like i said some

1042
00:49:20,710 --> 00:49:17,520
were receptive and others absolutely not

1043
00:49:22,390 --> 00:49:20,720
did you ever uh find yourself

1044
00:49:23,990 --> 00:49:22,400
having to

1045
00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:24,000
explain

1046
00:49:30,069 --> 00:49:27,440
what happened to to everybody you know

1047
00:49:31,990 --> 00:49:30,079
this is what happened there this uh this

1048
00:49:33,910 --> 00:49:32,000
incident this craft it might have been a

1049
00:49:36,790 --> 00:49:33,920
flying sauce you know e.t

1050
00:49:38,790 --> 00:49:36,800
having to go through that process or

1051
00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:38,800
was everybody just

1052
00:49:42,069 --> 00:49:40,720
right there and and knew what you were

1053
00:49:43,829 --> 00:49:42,079
talking about

1054
00:49:45,750 --> 00:49:43,839
we took cameras into the street of

1055
00:49:47,190 --> 00:49:45,760
downtown virginia brazil

1056
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:47,200
we spent a couple of hours we had

1057
00:49:51,510 --> 00:49:49,760
actually signs in portuguese

1058
00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:51,520
asking for anyone that had any

1059
00:49:56,069 --> 00:49:53,839
information to come forward and within a

1060
00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:56,079
couple of hours and again that segment's

1061
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:58,160
going to be in the it's in the film uh

1062
00:50:02,870 --> 00:50:00,240
it was amazing because it was fairly

1063
00:50:05,109 --> 00:50:02,880
recent it was 1996 how many people had a

1064
00:50:07,510 --> 00:50:05,119
piece of the puzzle how many people had

1065
00:50:09,510 --> 00:50:07,520
heard about the crash had heard about or

1066
00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:09,520
knew the people that saw the beans or

1067
00:50:15,190 --> 00:50:12,160
saw the military activity or saw

1068
00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:15,200
subsequent ufo activity in the area that

1069
00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:16,480
appeared to be

1070
00:50:21,670 --> 00:50:19,680
looking for something so it was uh

1071
00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:21,680
i i can assure

1072
00:50:25,670 --> 00:50:23,680
your audience that there's going to be

1073
00:50:27,430 --> 00:50:25,680
elements of of the virginia case that

1074
00:50:28,470 --> 00:50:27,440
have never been seen or heard anywhere

1075
00:50:31,510 --> 00:50:28,480
else

1076
00:50:33,829 --> 00:50:31,520
now and and you're you're somebody that

1077
00:50:36,069 --> 00:50:33,839
connects the dots that's what you do and

1078
00:50:36,870 --> 00:50:36,079
you've been doing this now for over 30

1079
00:50:39,030 --> 00:50:36,880
years

1080
00:50:41,030 --> 00:50:39,040
almost yeah

1081
00:50:43,030 --> 00:50:41,040
and and the hair the gray is starting to

1082
00:50:45,910 --> 00:50:43,040
come through my man i'm just letting you

1083
00:50:46,870 --> 00:50:45,920
know isn't it beautiful yeah i love it i

1084
00:50:48,549 --> 00:50:46,880
love it

1085
00:50:50,230 --> 00:50:48,559
every every one of them

1086
00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:50,240
i know right

1087
00:50:52,950 --> 00:50:51,359
is this

1088
00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:52,960
um were

1089
00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:54,400
were the

1090
00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:55,440
uh

1091
00:50:59,349 --> 00:50:57,760
was the testimonial that you caught on

1092
00:51:01,349 --> 00:50:59,359
camera from the people on the street now

1093
00:51:03,349 --> 00:51:01,359
i love that aspect of it

1094
00:51:04,710 --> 00:51:03,359
was it consistent

1095
00:51:07,349 --> 00:51:04,720
oh my god

1096
00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:07,359
not only was it consistent it actually

1097
00:51:13,510 --> 00:51:10,960
tied events together like we realized oh

1098
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:13,520
my god this guy that said this

1099
00:51:17,510 --> 00:51:15,520
is totally consistent with this other

1100
00:51:18,549 --> 00:51:17,520
guy that didn't know each other this and

1101
00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:18,559
we started putting the piece of the

1102
00:51:23,270 --> 00:51:21,119
puzzle together and in fact

1103
00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:23,280
i took my drone there and i was doing

1104
00:51:26,549 --> 00:51:25,200
aerial photography of certain regions

1105
00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:26,559
and there were times where i just took

1106
00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:28,880
my my drone super high in the sky and

1107
00:51:32,069 --> 00:51:30,640
pointed the camera straight down and i

1108
00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:32,079
would film

1109
00:51:37,910 --> 00:51:33,200
areas

1110
00:51:40,870 --> 00:51:37,920
realization about halfway through

1111
00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:40,880
filming wow this is the entire region

1112
00:51:45,190 --> 00:51:43,359
where the moment of of contact was

1113
00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:45,200
established with these girl witnesses

1114
00:51:48,710 --> 00:51:46,640
but then there was all this military

1115
00:51:50,950 --> 00:51:48,720
activity around that area so we actually

1116
00:51:52,630 --> 00:51:50,960
for the first time and i had brazilian

1117
00:51:54,790 --> 00:51:52,640
researchers telling me this for the

1118
00:51:56,630 --> 00:51:54,800
first time we documented by

1119
00:51:59,270 --> 00:51:56,640
by air

1120
00:52:02,390 --> 00:51:59,280
um the entire area where the vast

1121
00:52:05,510 --> 00:52:02,400
majority of either the witness sightings

1122
00:52:08,309 --> 00:52:05,520
occurred military captures occurred all

1123
00:52:10,549 --> 00:52:08,319
within you know less than a square mile

1124
00:52:12,710 --> 00:52:10,559
how many uh uh

1125
00:52:14,390 --> 00:52:12,720
before we get to the break and and we're

1126
00:52:17,030 --> 00:52:14,400
on limited time tonight

1127
00:52:19,270 --> 00:52:17,040
but uh for for the audience let's i just

1128
00:52:22,150 --> 00:52:19,280
want to go through some basics here

1129
00:52:24,710 --> 00:52:22,160
uh how many how many

1130
00:52:25,910 --> 00:52:24,720
bodies or beings were there

1131
00:52:27,349 --> 00:52:25,920
well

1132
00:52:28,230 --> 00:52:27,359
there are

1133
00:52:31,349 --> 00:52:28,240
uh

1134
00:52:33,190 --> 00:52:31,359
rumors of more than two right but we

1135
00:52:37,190 --> 00:52:33,200
have

1136
00:52:40,390 --> 00:52:37,200
clearly established two

1137
00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:40,400
one was uh was shot

1138
00:52:44,230 --> 00:52:42,000
uh and captured

1139
00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:44,240
uh on january 20th

1140
00:52:49,349 --> 00:52:47,599
1996. the other one was captured uh by

1141
00:52:51,430 --> 00:52:49,359
this guy marco chirizi who's a military

1142
00:52:54,309 --> 00:52:51,440
police officer the driver was named eric

1143
00:52:56,630 --> 00:52:54,319
lopes and he was captured alive

1144
00:52:59,430 --> 00:52:56,640
he was taken to two separate hospitals

1145
00:53:01,349 --> 00:52:59,440
uh regional then humanitas and

1146
00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:01,359
eventually escorted to

1147
00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:03,599
uh as a military base

1148
00:53:08,470 --> 00:53:06,480
tres caracones three hearts

1149
00:53:10,150 --> 00:53:08,480
uh in the mean in the area of minas

1150
00:53:12,710 --> 00:53:10,160
gerais and then eventually went to a

1151
00:53:15,589 --> 00:53:12,720
place called campinas which is where the

1152
00:53:18,790 --> 00:53:15,599
americans landed on january 22nd

1153
00:53:21,030 --> 00:53:18,800
and and that's uh and and and apparently

1154
00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:21,040
the the bodies eventually within a week

1155
00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:23,760
or so went went to the united states but

1156
00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:25,280
the one that was in captivity i don't

1157
00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:27,040
know how long it stayed alive they they

1158
00:53:31,270 --> 00:53:28,960
had they put it on oxygen they tried a

1159
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:31,280
number of we interviewed doctors

1160
00:53:34,390 --> 00:53:32,880
that were at the hospitals we

1161
00:53:36,870 --> 00:53:34,400
interviewed military that

1162
00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:36,880
that that drove the beans

1163
00:53:40,870 --> 00:53:38,720
it's it's such a remarkable case and

1164
00:53:42,390 --> 00:53:40,880
again i i don't expect your audience to

1165
00:53:44,549 --> 00:53:42,400
believe any of this because i certainly

1166
00:53:45,510 --> 00:53:44,559
didn't but i can assure you when you see

1167
00:53:49,270 --> 00:53:45,520
the

1168
00:53:50,549 --> 00:53:49,280
capture on camera and

1169
00:53:53,109 --> 00:53:50,559
start putting the pieces of the puzzle

1170
00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:53,119
together uh that happened that incident

1171
00:53:58,069 --> 00:53:56,160
happened and and the craft itself what

1172
00:53:59,750 --> 00:53:58,079
happened with it

1173
00:54:01,349 --> 00:53:59,760
uh that also went back to the united

1174
00:54:02,870 --> 00:54:01,359
states according to the military people

1175
00:54:08,069 --> 00:54:02,880
that i spoke to

1176
00:54:10,549 --> 00:54:08,079
and how long was the event uh

1177
00:54:13,430 --> 00:54:10,559
the crash happened on january 13th right

1178
00:54:16,710 --> 00:54:13,440
early morning as the sun was coming up

1179
00:54:19,750 --> 00:54:16,720
we got the uh a couple of farmers that

1180
00:54:21,510 --> 00:54:19,760
saw the craft in distress at about 2 a.m

1181
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:21,520
at about 5 00 a.m there's a guy named

1182
00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:23,200
carlos de sauza

1183
00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:26,160
he was a ultra light pilot he was on his

1184
00:54:32,230 --> 00:54:28,800
way from sao paulo brazil and he was

1185
00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:32,240
headed north to to an area to go flying

1186
00:54:36,549 --> 00:54:34,720
with his friends and he saw this object

1187
00:54:38,710 --> 00:54:36,559
in the sky he never once thought it was

1188
00:54:39,990 --> 00:54:38,720
extraterrestrial he thought it was some

1189
00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:40,000
sort of

1190
00:54:44,150 --> 00:54:42,240
possibly experimental government craft

1191
00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:44,160
he watched it crash he went to the crash

1192
00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:45,920
site he picked up the debris in his

1193
00:54:49,109 --> 00:54:47,920
hands the military arrived on the scene

1194
00:54:50,870 --> 00:54:49,119
within minutes

1195
00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:50,880
and threatened him

1196
00:54:56,069 --> 00:54:53,200
he gave a a couple of one brief

1197
00:54:59,349 --> 00:54:56,079
statement to a very famous brazilian ufo

1198
00:55:01,910 --> 00:54:59,359
researcher on camera named claudio covo

1199
00:55:04,150 --> 00:55:01,920
and uh then he disappeared for 25 years

1200
00:55:06,150 --> 00:55:04,160
we found him we brought him back to the

1201
00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:06,160
crash site for the first time in 26

1202
00:55:08,150 --> 00:55:07,040
years

1203
00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:08,160
and

1204
00:55:12,870 --> 00:55:10,319
did an extensive interview the object

1205
00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:12,880
was the size of a mini bus it was shaped

1206
00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:15,280
like a cigar it had weird porthole-like

1207
00:55:18,630 --> 00:55:16,960
windows

1208
00:55:21,109 --> 00:55:18,640
most of it

1209
00:55:22,710 --> 00:55:21,119
disintegrated upon impact but there was

1210
00:55:24,630 --> 00:55:22,720
a another

1211
00:55:28,069 --> 00:55:24,640
portion of it that was not

1212
00:55:30,470 --> 00:55:28,079
uh about seven days later uh about 15

1213
00:55:32,950 --> 00:55:30,480
miles away is where the live creatures

1214
00:55:35,829 --> 00:55:32,960
were were seen in the town of of

1215
00:55:37,270 --> 00:55:35,839
virginia and so you have the collection

1216
00:55:39,349 --> 00:55:37,280
of the debris

1217
00:55:41,190 --> 00:55:39,359
uh you have the military involved the

1218
00:55:43,109 --> 00:55:41,200
united states military too as well the

1219
00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:43,119
stuff had to go to a base so

1220
00:55:46,630 --> 00:55:45,520
uh ultimately we're talking about an

1221
00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:46,640
event

1222
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:49,920
that was over seven days long this was

1223
00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:53,440
uh a a a long event this wasn't an

1224
00:55:55,750 --> 00:55:54,880
overnight thing

1225
00:55:57,270 --> 00:55:55,760
yes

1226
00:55:59,430 --> 00:55:57,280
and the thing about it was is that the

1227
00:56:00,789 --> 00:55:59,440
military came into the town of virginia

1228
00:56:03,030 --> 00:56:00,799
and if you talk to the locals they'll

1229
00:56:04,630 --> 00:56:03,040
say the military in all the years all

1230
00:56:06,789 --> 00:56:04,640
the people that have lived there have

1231
00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:06,799
never seen a military presence like that

1232
00:56:11,589 --> 00:56:08,720
in the town of virginia and that they

1233
00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:11,599
surrounded a particular area cordoned it

1234
00:56:18,069 --> 00:56:15,200
off and threatened civilians with guns

1235
00:56:21,589 --> 00:56:18,079
to go any further in fact we got the

1236
00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:21,599
main news media outlet princesa tv this

1237
00:56:26,150 --> 00:56:24,240
guy nay who was reporting trying to

1238
00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:26,160
report on the incident while the capture

1239
00:56:30,309 --> 00:56:28,480
was happening and and they were also

1240
00:56:32,549 --> 00:56:30,319
threatened to go to jail if they went

1241
00:56:35,030 --> 00:56:32,559
and if they went beyond the barricade

1242
00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:35,040
and so we have all these testimonies on

1243
00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:36,720
camera talking about it and we have

1244
00:56:41,349 --> 00:56:39,040
archival footage and and obviously

1245
00:56:42,870 --> 00:56:41,359
modern day footage uh you know something

1246
00:56:45,589 --> 00:56:42,880
truly extraordinary took place in

1247
00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:45,599
virginia in 1996. now really quick

1248
00:56:50,309 --> 00:56:47,920
before we get to the break uh

1249
00:56:53,589 --> 00:56:50,319
the archival footage

1250
00:56:55,670 --> 00:56:53,599
um how incredible was that to to be able

1251
00:56:59,510 --> 00:56:55,680
to get it it's not that long ago right

1252
00:57:01,270 --> 00:56:59,520
it's 25 years ago yeah so but uh even to

1253
00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:01,280
have access to it

1254
00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:03,599
how incredible was it and and what did

1255
00:57:06,870 --> 00:57:05,520
you see

1256
00:57:08,309 --> 00:57:06,880
so i've had

1257
00:57:12,470 --> 00:57:08,319
i've been working on the case for about

1258
00:57:15,109 --> 00:57:12,480
11 years now not consistently but but

1259
00:57:16,470 --> 00:57:15,119
you know plugging away and we have

1260
00:57:19,910 --> 00:57:16,480
managed to get

1261
00:57:23,349 --> 00:57:19,920
probably the biggest archive of archived

1262
00:57:25,750 --> 00:57:23,359
material and it's amazing to see

1263
00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:25,760
witnesses then and now

1264
00:57:29,589 --> 00:57:27,760
all telling the same story and then

1265
00:57:31,589 --> 00:57:29,599
coupled with new testimony coming on

1266
00:57:33,589 --> 00:57:31,599
board i mean it's amazing it's just

1267
00:57:35,990 --> 00:57:33,599
you're seeing press conferences

1268
00:57:36,950 --> 00:57:36,000
with media you're seeing the most

1269
00:57:40,630 --> 00:57:36,960
famous

1270
00:57:42,549 --> 00:57:40,640
uh news media personnel in in in the

1271
00:57:43,990 --> 00:57:42,559
country of brazil

1272
00:57:46,390 --> 00:57:44,000
you know commenting on this and

1273
00:57:48,150 --> 00:57:46,400
researching on this uh it's it's

1274
00:57:51,750 --> 00:57:48,160
fascinating to me

1275
00:57:53,910 --> 00:57:51,760
that more never happened outside of

1276
00:57:56,150 --> 00:57:53,920
brazil sure there have been a couple of

1277
00:57:57,750 --> 00:57:56,160
little films but for the most part

1278
00:57:59,910 --> 00:57:57,760
myself included

1279
00:58:01,270 --> 00:57:59,920
we don't know a lot about this case

1280
00:58:03,670 --> 00:58:01,280
now when uh

1281
00:58:05,430 --> 00:58:03,680
what stage are you in production and do

1282
00:58:07,589 --> 00:58:05,440
you have a release date

1283
00:58:10,549 --> 00:58:07,599
i walked from the edit room

1284
00:58:12,390 --> 00:58:10,559
straight over to do this interview

1285
00:58:14,069 --> 00:58:12,400
i i'm literally putting the film

1286
00:58:16,870 --> 00:58:14,079
together so what i do is when i make

1287
00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:16,880
documentaries i do the films every film

1288
00:58:22,950 --> 00:58:19,440
i've ever done i do them in segments

1289
00:58:25,910 --> 00:58:22,960
so i'll do you know the the act one act

1290
00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:25,920
two act three and it's kind of so it's

1291
00:58:30,309 --> 00:58:27,520
i don't know it's my process it's what i

1292
00:58:31,589 --> 00:58:30,319
do but i'll i'll finish all the

1293
00:58:35,430 --> 00:58:31,599
different segments and i think i had

1294
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:35,440
like 16 or maybe 12 or 16 and then i put

1295
00:58:37,670 --> 00:58:36,400
them together

1296
00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:37,680
and i'm literally putting them all

1297
00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:38,960
together right now

1298
00:58:45,349 --> 00:58:42,880
and uh you know x1 x2 x3 and uh and then

1299
00:58:46,870 --> 00:58:45,359
i stitch them together and and finesse

1300
00:58:48,950 --> 00:58:46,880
the the narration and that's where we're

1301
00:58:52,390 --> 00:58:48,960
at in production right now so we have a

1302
00:58:53,750 --> 00:58:52,400
film that's roughly 100 minutes long i

1303
00:58:56,870 --> 00:58:53,760
think with credits it's going to be

1304
00:58:59,190 --> 00:58:56,880
about 110 minutes long uh put together

1305
00:59:01,430 --> 00:58:59,200
as of probably five minutes ago

1306
00:59:04,470 --> 00:59:01,440
and release date

1307
00:59:07,349 --> 00:59:04,480
uh this year late this year oh nothing

1308
00:59:09,910 --> 00:59:07,359
firm yet no because they want three

1309
00:59:11,670 --> 00:59:09,920
months roll out and i've got to do

1310
00:59:13,990 --> 00:59:11,680
uh you know once you fill once you

1311
00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:14,000
finish a documentary you'll do like a

1312
00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:16,640
attempt narration like i'm temporarily

1313
00:59:20,390 --> 00:59:18,400
for the for the time being narrating

1314
00:59:22,789 --> 00:59:20,400
peter carriage is going to narrate it oh

1315
00:59:25,270 --> 00:59:22,799
no no no not peter this time you need

1316
00:59:26,789 --> 00:59:25,280
you need this cat jimmy church

1317
00:59:30,069 --> 00:59:26,799
and burbank

1318
00:59:32,150 --> 00:59:30,079
well like i mean peters

1319
00:59:34,950 --> 00:59:32,160
he's been awfully loyal to me and he's

1320
00:59:37,670 --> 00:59:34,960
the best he is the best he is the best i

1321
00:59:38,549 --> 00:59:37,680
narrated my first film last year

1322
00:59:39,430 --> 00:59:38,559
and

1323
00:59:41,349 --> 00:59:39,440
uh

1324
00:59:43,910 --> 00:59:41,359
and it was great i really enjoyed it i

1325
00:59:44,710 --> 00:59:43,920
got it off the bucket list and

1326
00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:44,720
uh

1327
00:59:48,150 --> 00:59:46,400
and it's out there and it's great but

1328
00:59:50,150 --> 00:59:48,160
let me tell you something you get

1329
00:59:53,109 --> 00:59:50,160
through something like that

1330
00:59:54,630 --> 00:59:53,119
and you really appreciate an artist like

1331
00:59:57,109 --> 00:59:54,640
peter coyote

1332
00:59:59,349 --> 00:59:57,119
and and i'm being straight up he's

1333
01:00:01,750 --> 00:59:59,359
always been somebody that i would love

1334
01:00:03,910 --> 01:00:01,760
to emulate and and get and i finally did

1335
01:00:06,230 --> 01:00:03,920
it i'm like you know what once is enough

1336
01:00:08,950 --> 01:00:06,240
man well you know what's funny is like

1337
01:00:10,870 --> 01:00:08,960
every time i go to meet with him

1338
01:00:13,349 --> 01:00:10,880
and i think this is the fourth or fifth

1339
01:00:15,510 --> 01:00:13,359
film that he's narrated right he uh his

1340
01:00:17,589 --> 01:00:15,520
his uh his his producer will go all

1341
01:00:19,510 --> 01:00:17,599
right so how long is the movie uh the

1342
01:00:22,069 --> 01:00:19,520
phone it was about just under two hours

1343
01:00:23,670 --> 01:00:22,079
okay and so how much okay so he needs

1344
01:00:26,470 --> 01:00:23,680
about 45 minutes in the studio i'm like

1345
01:00:29,670 --> 01:00:26,480
no no no no no no he's got to do no to

1346
01:00:31,829 --> 01:00:29,680
take no and he goes no no peter does one

1347
01:00:34,950 --> 01:00:31,839
take

1348
01:00:38,950 --> 01:00:34,960
he will pronounce names in russian in

1349
01:00:41,990 --> 01:00:38,960
japanese in chinese and do it flawlessly

1350
01:00:44,470 --> 01:00:42,000
the first day it's like how on earth and

1351
01:00:46,630 --> 01:00:44,480
like the little like thing like i think

1352
01:00:48,789 --> 01:00:46,640
i got him to repeat one or two lines in

1353
01:00:51,349 --> 01:00:48,799
the phenomenon like he's that good yes

1354
01:00:53,190 --> 01:00:51,359
and he he he delivers it in a way that's

1355
01:00:56,069 --> 01:00:53,200
like i didn't even think of that like

1356
01:01:00,230 --> 01:00:56,079
you know he's amazing and i'm just such

1357
01:01:03,990 --> 01:01:00,240
a i'm so blessed so fortunate to have uh

1358
01:01:07,190 --> 01:01:04,000
to have him on board with with with ufos

1359
01:01:09,349 --> 01:01:07,200
i know well uh he did do e.t

1360
01:01:11,030 --> 01:01:09,359
that's true you know let's not forget i

1361
01:01:13,349 --> 01:01:11,040
think he's dipped his toe in the water

1362
01:01:15,510 --> 01:01:13,359
once let's uh let's take our break right

1363
01:01:17,430 --> 01:01:15,520
here james this is fade to block our

1364
01:01:19,270 --> 01:01:17,440
guest tonight james fox talking about

1365
01:01:22,309 --> 01:01:19,280
his new film you just heard it for the

1366
01:01:23,990 --> 01:01:22,319
first time it is called moment

1367
01:01:25,670 --> 01:01:24,000
of contact i'm your host jimmy church

1368
01:01:31,350 --> 01:01:25,680
this is fade to black stay with us we'll

1369
01:01:43,870 --> 01:01:41,430
[Music]

1370
01:01:54,789 --> 01:01:43,880
hey

1371
01:02:00,510 --> 01:01:57,029
this is fade to black with jimmy church

1372
01:02:01,990 --> 01:02:00,520
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1373
01:02:04,470 --> 01:02:02,000
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01:02:07,910 --> 01:02:04,480
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01:03:17,190 --> 01:03:12,559
jimmy church and fade to black on the

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1399
01:03:27,109 --> 01:03:24,960
or maybe you're a collector just like me

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01:03:28,950 --> 01:03:27,119
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1401
01:03:31,670 --> 01:03:28,960
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1402
01:03:33,589 --> 01:03:31,680
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01:03:38,069 --> 01:03:36,079
carolyn is the guardian of einstein one

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01:03:40,470 --> 01:03:38,079
of the most respected ancient crystal

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skulls in the world all of her unique

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skulls have been imprinted sitting with

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01:03:46,710 --> 01:03:44,720
einstein in his sacred lodge and are

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01:03:49,430 --> 01:03:46,720
carved from the finest gemstone and

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materials imprinting is the process of

1411
01:03:55,029 --> 01:03:51,440
receiving the ancient wisdom from the

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01:03:57,430 --> 01:03:55,039
master skull or master computer einstein

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black i'm your host

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jimmy church

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tonight james fox is here

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and uh this is a treat for me

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because

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i have to work at it

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it's not an easy thing with with james

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but here's the deal

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i've got a joke for you james okay you

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ready

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okay that's it that you're supposed to

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laugh i'm supposed to laugh i laughed i

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thought it was i thought it was pretty

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good um

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01:07:23,829 --> 01:07:21,680
what do you prefer you've been at this

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01:07:26,069 --> 01:07:23,839
for a long time and

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01:07:30,230 --> 01:07:26,079
we've got some fundamental changes going

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01:07:34,230 --> 01:07:30,240
on uh with with with nouns

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what do you prefer ufo or uap

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it's funny you should ask because i just

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gave like a 90 minute class that i was

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invited on and i i said no for like

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three months and they finally coerced me

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to go on and i put together a 90-minute

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presentation where i had to talk to a

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camera for 90 90 minutes

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and

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i

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addressed

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what has been happening in the last

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couple of years with the issue

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and i said

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ufos

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for the most part and then i prefaced

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that by saying

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now commonly referred to as uaps and i

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understand

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why

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they changed it ufos have a lot of

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baggage

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uh

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unidentified aerial phenomena i guess is

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more appropriate because it's a

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phenomena

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phenomenon

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uh but i i don't know i kind of prefer

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ufos

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and

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is it

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when like when you're on the streets

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right you're down in brazil right you're

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doing the thing

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yes

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would would you know has the change been

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made down there what did you say

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01:08:49,590 --> 01:08:46,159
no they say liz

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right right which is ufo right yeah

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01:08:54,309 --> 01:08:50,799
and uh

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yeah i i i can't

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i i i i i if i have to i'll say both

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you know at the same time

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01:09:08,309 --> 01:09:05,040
yeah yeah ufos uaps ufos uaps

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um i i can't i can't make the adjustment

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01:09:13,189 --> 01:09:09,920
i don't know if it's that i'm just you

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know too old and instead of my ways but

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01:09:17,269 --> 01:09:14,960
but i agree with you

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01:09:20,550 --> 01:09:17,279
ufo i like ufos

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01:09:22,149 --> 01:09:20,560
but people know what a ufo is they do

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01:09:24,550 --> 01:09:22,159
they do and it doesn't have the same

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01:09:25,990 --> 01:09:24,560
impact when you say are you are uap is

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real it's like

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it kind of falls flat and then you have

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to explain

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01:09:33,030 --> 01:09:31,040
yeah then i have to say so i said i

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prefaced it by saying ufos and then i

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01:09:38,870 --> 01:09:35,679
said commonly referred to today

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as uap's unidentified aerial phenomena

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01:09:45,349 --> 01:09:40,000
so

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01:09:48,550 --> 01:09:45,359
yeah i prefer ufos but i understand

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01:09:50,309 --> 01:09:48,560
why they have shifted to uaps now you've

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01:09:52,470 --> 01:09:50,319
been out

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01:09:53,749 --> 01:09:52,480
in the front of this for a very long

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01:09:54,870 --> 01:09:53,759
time and

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01:09:56,470 --> 01:09:54,880
uh

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01:09:58,470 --> 01:09:56,480
in the media

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01:10:00,870 --> 01:09:58,480
of course and and through your

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01:10:01,669 --> 01:10:00,880
filmmaking and research

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01:10:04,149 --> 01:10:01,679
um

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01:10:06,070 --> 01:10:04,159
do you consider yourself because you're

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01:10:08,550 --> 01:10:06,080
in a weird position you're a director

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01:10:11,430 --> 01:10:08,560
you're creating media

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01:10:15,590 --> 01:10:11,440
but do you consider yourself a part of

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01:10:18,950 --> 01:10:16,950
no

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01:10:21,189 --> 01:10:18,960
why don't

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01:10:23,030 --> 01:10:21,199
i don't because

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01:10:25,590 --> 01:10:23,040
you know there's funny there's a rumor

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01:10:27,830 --> 01:10:25,600
circulating right now in south america

1566
01:10:30,070 --> 01:10:27,840
in brazil that i'm some sort of

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01:10:32,709 --> 01:10:30,080
government agent and i'm you know with

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01:10:35,189 --> 01:10:32,719
the deep state and i just laughed i i

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01:10:37,350 --> 01:10:35,199
remember my partner marco leo who's been

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01:10:39,350 --> 01:10:37,360
working with me on virginia now for

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01:10:40,709 --> 01:10:39,360
about 10 years he's like you realize

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01:10:43,430 --> 01:10:40,719
that there are rumors circulating that

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01:10:45,189 --> 01:10:43,440
you're part of the deep state now and

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01:10:47,750 --> 01:10:45,199
it's like i couldn't be further away

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01:10:49,270 --> 01:10:47,760
from that i am as as independent as one

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01:10:51,910 --> 01:10:49,280
could possibly be

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01:10:55,030 --> 01:10:51,920
i don't affiliate with any news

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01:10:58,229 --> 01:10:55,040
organization i'm totally and fiercely

1579
01:10:59,910 --> 01:10:58,239
independent i've had offers to go with

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01:11:02,390 --> 01:10:59,920
netflix and other

1581
01:11:03,270 --> 01:11:02,400
uh big well-known organizations and i to

1582
01:11:04,470 --> 01:11:03,280
be honest

1583
01:11:05,669 --> 01:11:04,480
at the end of the day it's not about the

1584
01:11:07,910 --> 01:11:05,679
money for me

1585
01:11:10,470 --> 01:11:07,920
it's about my independence it's about

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01:11:13,030 --> 01:11:10,480
doing what i can what i've always done i

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01:11:15,669 --> 01:11:13,040
did this for free in fact i worked you

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01:11:18,070 --> 01:11:15,679
know parking cars and painting houses to

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01:11:19,110 --> 01:11:18,080
continue doing what i do because i love

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01:11:20,790 --> 01:11:19,120
what i do

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01:11:22,070 --> 01:11:20,800
and i don't want

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01:11:23,590 --> 01:11:22,080
anyone

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01:11:25,910 --> 01:11:23,600
to step in

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01:11:28,149 --> 01:11:25,920
and and tell me how to do it or to

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01:11:30,470 --> 01:11:28,159
influence what i want to say

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01:11:33,110 --> 01:11:30,480
you know what i mean and i i love that

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01:11:35,830 --> 01:11:33,120
freedom i love that liberty i love that

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01:11:38,070 --> 01:11:35,840
independence and i'll never ever

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01:11:39,510 --> 01:11:38,080
ever

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01:11:41,510 --> 01:11:39,520
steer away from it

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01:11:43,910 --> 01:11:41,520
now if we go back

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01:11:46,790 --> 01:11:43,920
not worth it for me i mean i just

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01:11:50,470 --> 01:11:46,800
i i i love my independence i mean i did

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01:11:53,510 --> 01:11:50,480
that show that silly stupid show god boy

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01:11:55,270 --> 01:11:53,520
did i have i had to make up for that one

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01:11:57,110 --> 01:11:55,280
no i didn't want to bring that up now

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01:11:59,669 --> 01:11:57,120
you're bringing it up i didn't want to

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01:12:01,830 --> 01:11:59,679
bring that up and myself to blame as

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01:12:03,750 --> 01:12:01,840
well i mean what can i say i did it i

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01:12:06,790 --> 01:12:03,760
you know it was horrible it was like you

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01:12:09,910 --> 01:12:06,800
know what's funny oh i sold my soul this

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01:12:12,790 --> 01:12:09,920
is this is a yes or no question okay do

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01:12:15,270 --> 01:12:12,800
you even remember the name of the show

1614
01:12:16,550 --> 01:12:15,280
no exactly

1615
01:12:23,510 --> 01:12:16,560
exactly

1616
01:12:25,830 --> 01:12:23,520
let's let's move on off of that but

1617
01:12:28,550 --> 01:12:25,840
in that i don't want you to be the old

1618
01:12:30,630 --> 01:12:28,560
guy in the room but right now you are

1619
01:12:31,669 --> 01:12:30,640
you're very respected all right you've

1620
01:12:33,830 --> 01:12:31,679
been there

1621
01:12:36,790 --> 01:12:33,840
but through all of this and if we go

1622
01:12:37,669 --> 01:12:36,800
back to you know the the larry king days

1623
01:12:41,910 --> 01:12:37,679
and

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01:12:43,750 --> 01:12:41,920
that time in the media that you would

1625
01:12:45,990 --> 01:12:43,760
find yourself

1626
01:12:50,709 --> 01:12:46,000
in 2022

1627
01:12:53,590 --> 01:12:50,719
in like a media and worldwide acceptance

1628
01:12:56,390 --> 01:12:53,600
of the subject right that that we are

1629
01:12:57,590 --> 01:12:56,400
actually here does it does it feel right

1630
01:12:59,189 --> 01:12:57,600
to you

1631
01:13:01,669 --> 01:12:59,199
it's really weird actually it's funny

1632
01:13:04,470 --> 01:13:01,679
you should say that because just today

1633
01:13:06,790 --> 01:13:04,480
i participated in a in a special that's

1634
01:13:07,830 --> 01:13:06,800
coming out by a big news organization

1635
01:13:09,990 --> 01:13:07,840
i'm not sure if they made the

1636
01:13:13,189 --> 01:13:10,000
announcement about it or not yet

1637
01:13:16,470 --> 01:13:13,199
but they sent me text messages

1638
01:13:19,350 --> 01:13:16,480
asking me my opinion on certain

1639
01:13:20,709 --> 01:13:19,360
stated events with ufos and nukes and of

1640
01:13:22,070 --> 01:13:20,719
course robert hastings is the guy to

1641
01:13:24,229 --> 01:13:22,080
talk to about that but just the fact

1642
01:13:26,709 --> 01:13:24,239
that they considered me someone who knew

1643
01:13:30,390 --> 01:13:26,719
what they were talking about a trusted

1644
01:13:32,070 --> 01:13:30,400
resource or source of information i kind

1645
01:13:34,390 --> 01:13:32,080
of had to pinch myself and i thought wow

1646
01:13:35,270 --> 01:13:34,400
i never thought i'd see the day where

1647
01:13:37,430 --> 01:13:35,280
you know

1648
01:13:41,030 --> 01:13:37,440
organizations would be reaching out to

1649
01:13:42,470 --> 01:13:41,040
me to get clarification on on ufo cases

1650
01:13:44,229 --> 01:13:42,480
and it's just weird you know it's like

1651
01:13:47,910 --> 01:13:44,239
i'm doing the same thing today as i

1652
01:13:52,870 --> 01:13:49,830
i've just managed to

1653
01:13:54,470 --> 01:13:52,880
i guess get some level of credibility in

1654
01:13:55,669 --> 01:13:54,480
the in the field

1655
01:13:57,590 --> 01:13:55,679
and

1656
01:13:58,390 --> 01:13:57,600
why is that i have to ask myself why is

1657
01:14:01,669 --> 01:13:58,400
that

1658
01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:01,679
i think because i don't draw any

1659
01:14:04,390 --> 01:14:02,960
conclusions

1660
01:14:06,630 --> 01:14:04,400
and i let the

1661
01:14:08,709 --> 01:14:06,640
witnesses speak for themselves

1662
01:14:10,709 --> 01:14:08,719
and i try not to influence

1663
01:14:13,669 --> 01:14:10,719
their perception or

1664
01:14:15,110 --> 01:14:13,679
perspective on on their experience not

1665
01:14:17,350 --> 01:14:15,120
mine it's theirs

1666
01:14:19,990 --> 01:14:17,360
and people i've been criticized

1667
01:14:22,550 --> 01:14:20,000
uh you know by some skeptics

1668
01:14:25,430 --> 01:14:22,560
and i have to you know reach out to them

1669
01:14:26,630 --> 01:14:25,440
and say look man i never said

1670
01:14:29,189 --> 01:14:26,640
e.t

1671
01:14:30,630 --> 01:14:29,199
or alien visiting the planet earth i

1672
01:14:32,390 --> 01:14:30,640
don't say that

1673
01:14:33,590 --> 01:14:32,400
do i believe that that's an entirely

1674
01:14:34,950 --> 01:14:33,600
different top that's an entirely

1675
01:14:38,229 --> 01:14:34,960
different question

1676
01:14:41,110 --> 01:14:38,239
and it's irrelevant i just report on

1677
01:14:43,510 --> 01:14:41,120
a case based on the people that were

1678
01:14:45,669 --> 01:14:43,520
there that's it i mean i just i put it

1679
01:14:47,350 --> 01:14:45,679
on the table and allowed the audience to

1680
01:14:49,270 --> 01:14:47,360
make up their own mind

1681
01:14:51,270 --> 01:14:49,280
and i feel like that's that's that's how

1682
01:14:53,350 --> 01:14:51,280
it should be done well

1683
01:14:54,470 --> 01:14:53,360
and in the same respect if you flip it

1684
01:14:58,630 --> 01:14:54,480
over

1685
01:15:00,870 --> 01:14:58,640
um and away from you are you surprised

1686
01:15:03,189 --> 01:15:00,880
that the media

1687
01:15:06,229 --> 01:15:03,199
is now taking this seriously you're not

1688
01:15:07,430 --> 01:15:06,239
for you know you are not trying to get

1689
01:15:11,189 --> 01:15:07,440
the media

1690
01:15:12,870 --> 01:15:11,199
to speak about this and instead it's

1691
01:15:15,030 --> 01:15:12,880
flipped over they're coming to you and

1692
01:15:16,950 --> 01:15:15,040
they are taking the subject serious is

1693
01:15:19,910 --> 01:15:16,960
that surprising

1694
01:15:21,110 --> 01:15:19,920
yeah it is surprising it's surprising

1695
01:15:22,550 --> 01:15:21,120
and it's

1696
01:15:24,470 --> 01:15:22,560
like i remember with this big news

1697
01:15:26,630 --> 01:15:24,480
organization was at my house filming me

1698
01:15:28,550 --> 01:15:26,640
a while ago and they started asking me

1699
01:15:30,630 --> 01:15:28,560
about my current project

1700
01:15:32,709 --> 01:15:30,640
and i just said you know

1701
01:15:34,310 --> 01:15:32,719
actually i'm gonna i'm gonna take the

1702
01:15:36,630 --> 01:15:34,320
fifth on this one they said what do you

1703
01:15:38,790 --> 01:15:36,640
mean i said i'm not gonna comment on it

1704
01:15:40,550 --> 01:15:38,800
because you're gonna think i'm crazy and

1705
01:15:41,990 --> 01:15:40,560
i don't feel like defending my position

1706
01:15:44,709 --> 01:15:42,000
on it and

1707
01:15:46,790 --> 01:15:44,719
just let my work speak for itself

1708
01:15:48,229 --> 01:15:46,800
and

1709
01:15:49,990 --> 01:15:48,239
yeah that's that's pretty much how i

1710
01:15:51,669 --> 01:15:50,000
feel i mean look i'm just doing the same

1711
01:15:53,110 --> 01:15:51,679
thing that i've always done

1712
01:15:55,430 --> 01:15:53,120
and i don't want to

1713
01:15:57,830 --> 01:15:55,440
deviate from that path because i feel

1714
01:16:00,229 --> 01:15:57,840
like it's working

1715
01:16:02,310 --> 01:16:00,239
it's just look it's just my personal

1716
01:16:03,830 --> 01:16:02,320
journey that i happen to be sharing

1717
01:16:06,950 --> 01:16:03,840
publicly you know

1718
01:16:08,470 --> 01:16:06,960
i i'm very curious i i really want to

1719
01:16:10,470 --> 01:16:08,480
know what's going on i want to know

1720
01:16:12,149 --> 01:16:10,480
what's being hidden from us

1721
01:16:15,510 --> 01:16:12,159
and i feel like

1722
01:16:17,990 --> 01:16:15,520
everyone is entitled to this information

1723
01:16:19,350 --> 01:16:18,000
and uh yeah funny enough the more i

1724
01:16:20,390 --> 01:16:19,360
learn the more i realize how much i

1725
01:16:23,270 --> 01:16:20,400
don't know

1726
01:16:26,470 --> 01:16:24,390
i just speaking i would get to the

1727
01:16:28,709 --> 01:16:26,480
bottom of it but i'm not yeah right

1728
01:16:30,950 --> 01:16:28,719
right right and and staying staying on

1729
01:16:32,310 --> 01:16:30,960
the same subject

1730
01:16:38,950 --> 01:16:32,320
is

1731
01:16:40,630 --> 01:16:38,960
now a friend of the ufo community

1732
01:16:42,470 --> 01:16:40,640
i think they're realizing that they've

1733
01:16:46,070 --> 01:16:42,480
had a huge gap

1734
01:16:49,750 --> 01:16:46,080
in time on a potentially massive story

1735
01:16:51,910 --> 01:16:49,760
and they're starting to realize uh that

1736
01:16:53,350 --> 01:16:51,920
that the phenomenon is real

1737
01:16:54,790 --> 01:16:53,360
and that they're they're playing

1738
01:16:55,990 --> 01:16:54,800
catch-up

1739
01:16:58,550 --> 01:16:56,000
i mean look

1740
01:17:01,270 --> 01:16:58,560
i think the phenomenon the film played a

1741
01:17:02,470 --> 01:17:01,280
small role in educating some of the some

1742
01:17:05,430 --> 01:17:02,480
of the media

1743
01:17:07,430 --> 01:17:05,440
um i'm really proud of that and there's

1744
01:17:10,870 --> 01:17:07,440
been so many other individuals i mean i

1745
01:17:13,750 --> 01:17:10,880
i i tip my hat to christopher mellon and

1746
01:17:15,590 --> 01:17:13,760
lou elizondo and i get comments you know

1747
01:17:16,950 --> 01:17:15,600
periodically about you know they're part

1748
01:17:18,390 --> 01:17:16,960
of the deep state and everything else

1749
01:17:21,350 --> 01:17:18,400
i'm like you know even if they do have

1750
01:17:24,870 --> 01:17:21,360
military ties they're doing a fantastic

1751
01:17:26,790 --> 01:17:24,880
job and i stand firmly behind their

1752
01:17:30,229 --> 01:17:26,800
position in what they're doing i could

1753
01:17:32,390 --> 01:17:30,239
not have more respect for lou and chris

1754
01:17:34,630 --> 01:17:32,400
uh and others that have been putting

1755
01:17:38,149 --> 01:17:34,640
their necks out and really pushing

1756
01:17:40,950 --> 01:17:38,159
uh for further transparency on the topic

1757
01:17:43,110 --> 01:17:40,960
did you read uh chris mellon's latest

1758
01:17:44,630 --> 01:17:43,120
article in the debrief it made my head

1759
01:17:46,550 --> 01:17:44,640
spin i thought i could never write

1760
01:17:48,149 --> 01:17:46,560
something like that that's absolutely

1761
01:17:51,430 --> 01:17:48,159
amazing and i

1762
01:17:53,030 --> 01:17:51,440
it's funny actually at paralleling that

1763
01:17:55,030 --> 01:17:53,040
article coming out

1764
01:17:56,830 --> 01:17:55,040
i was preparing for this 90 minute class

1765
01:18:00,550 --> 01:17:56,840
that i gave and they wanted some archive

1766
01:18:02,149 --> 01:18:00,560
stuff uh digging up my my past

1767
01:18:04,550 --> 01:18:02,159
and i came upon

1768
01:18:08,470 --> 01:18:04,560
uh the trailer for i know what i saw

1769
01:18:11,510 --> 01:18:08,480
which i think i did in like 2008 or 2009

1770
01:18:13,669 --> 01:18:11,520
and i was calling out the air force

1771
01:18:14,630 --> 01:18:13,679
on live television on cnn which at the

1772
01:18:16,790 --> 01:18:14,640
time

1773
01:18:18,070 --> 01:18:16,800
larry king live was a very big platform

1774
01:18:20,310 --> 01:18:18,080
i mean there were tens of millions of

1775
01:18:22,310 --> 01:18:20,320
people watching that around the world

1776
01:18:24,709 --> 01:18:22,320
and i called out the air force

1777
01:18:27,030 --> 01:18:24,719
to tell the truth and i remember when it

1778
01:18:29,350 --> 01:18:27,040
happened i was thinking oh did i just

1779
01:18:30,630 --> 01:18:29,360
step on some big toes i'd do that and i

1780
01:18:32,550 --> 01:18:30,640
thought well that's funny because chris

1781
01:18:34,310 --> 01:18:32,560
is doing that now is you know because

1782
01:18:36,950 --> 01:18:34,320
the air force

1783
01:18:38,310 --> 01:18:36,960
has been awfully silent lately

1784
01:18:39,189 --> 01:18:38,320
and

1785
01:18:45,110 --> 01:18:39,199
when

1786
01:18:47,669 --> 01:18:45,120
byline headline uh like this article in

1787
01:18:49,830 --> 01:18:47,679
the debrief which is you know is the uh

1788
01:18:53,189 --> 01:18:49,840
united states air force a wall on the

1789
01:18:54,870 --> 01:18:53,199
ufo uap issue that's a very direct thing

1790
01:18:55,910 --> 01:18:54,880
you don't have to read between the lines

1791
01:18:58,630 --> 01:18:55,920
there

1792
01:19:00,310 --> 01:18:58,640
um and i thought

1793
01:19:02,310 --> 01:19:00,320
maybe chris is

1794
01:19:05,030 --> 01:19:02,320
gonna make some people angry

1795
01:19:07,030 --> 01:19:05,040
do you think that there's anger

1796
01:19:09,430 --> 01:19:07,040
there that could develop or do you think

1797
01:19:11,750 --> 01:19:09,440
it's you know quite honestly gonna light

1798
01:19:14,550 --> 01:19:11,760
a fire under the air force

1799
01:19:16,070 --> 01:19:14,560
and and and have them actually say

1800
01:19:17,750 --> 01:19:16,080
something

1801
01:19:20,550 --> 01:19:17,760
i think a lot of very big statements

1802
01:19:21,669 --> 01:19:20,560
have been made recently in the last year

1803
01:19:23,270 --> 01:19:21,679
too

1804
01:19:24,310 --> 01:19:23,280
and you can't put the genie back in the

1805
01:19:27,590 --> 01:19:24,320
bottle

1806
01:19:29,750 --> 01:19:27,600
and the air force in my opinion

1807
01:19:32,550 --> 01:19:29,760
has been most quiet because they've got

1808
01:19:34,470 --> 01:19:32,560
the most to hide they've also

1809
01:19:37,110 --> 01:19:34,480
you know they've got

1810
01:19:39,270 --> 01:19:37,120
the job of securing our airspace

1811
01:19:41,189 --> 01:19:39,280
and they're going to have to admit by

1812
01:19:42,870 --> 01:19:41,199
revealing what they know that they're

1813
01:19:44,470 --> 01:19:42,880
not able to

1814
01:19:46,149 --> 01:19:44,480
secure the airspace that there are

1815
01:19:48,229 --> 01:19:46,159
objects of unknown origin whizzing

1816
01:19:49,990 --> 01:19:48,239
around with impunity and that's not

1817
01:19:52,630 --> 01:19:50,000
something that i don't feel like they

1818
01:19:55,669 --> 01:19:52,640
they want to do for obvious reasons well

1819
01:19:57,350 --> 01:19:55,679
with uh your work and your research um

1820
01:20:00,070 --> 01:19:57,360
did you

1821
01:20:02,550 --> 01:20:00,080
try to approach uh the united states air

1822
01:20:05,030 --> 01:20:02,560
force in the past uh for information or

1823
01:20:06,629 --> 01:20:05,040
statements oh god yeah i mean i i'd

1824
01:20:08,629 --> 01:20:06,639
reached out with foia statements i'd

1825
01:20:11,669 --> 01:20:08,639
reached out to the to the president i've

1826
01:20:12,870 --> 01:20:11,679
reached out uh you know over the years

1827
01:20:15,189 --> 01:20:12,880
and they always give that sort of

1828
01:20:17,430 --> 01:20:15,199
template response you know the air force

1829
01:20:19,030 --> 01:20:17,440
hasn't investigated ufos since the

1830
01:20:21,510 --> 01:20:19,040
termination of project blue book back in

1831
01:20:22,950 --> 01:20:21,520
1969

1832
01:20:25,030 --> 01:20:22,960
i'm thinking to myself

1833
01:20:26,870 --> 01:20:25,040
yeah that doesn't quite add up

1834
01:20:28,470 --> 01:20:26,880
because

1835
01:20:38,149 --> 01:20:28,480
i

1836
01:20:41,110 --> 01:20:38,159
from around the world for decades now

1837
01:20:42,470 --> 01:20:41,120
and they have all told me

1838
01:20:44,470 --> 01:20:42,480
on camera

1839
01:20:46,950 --> 01:20:44,480
that there was some unknown government

1840
01:20:49,830 --> 01:20:46,960
agency whether it was in tehran or

1841
01:20:51,189 --> 01:20:49,840
belgium or brazil

1842
01:20:53,510 --> 01:20:51,199
from the u.s government was there

1843
01:20:54,550 --> 01:20:53,520
investigating and and

1844
01:20:57,110 --> 01:20:54,560
i don't want to say threatening

1845
01:20:58,790 --> 01:20:57,120
witnesses what kind of

1846
01:21:01,830 --> 01:20:58,800
but definitely trying to influence

1847
01:21:02,870 --> 01:21:01,840
witnesses uh get their hands on any

1848
01:21:05,189 --> 01:21:02,880
evidence

1849
01:21:07,189 --> 01:21:05,199
and so i've known that that the

1850
01:21:08,790 --> 01:21:07,199
investigations had carried on since the

1851
01:21:10,390 --> 01:21:08,800
termination of blue book it just went

1852
01:21:11,910 --> 01:21:10,400
underground

1853
01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:11,920
now i don't know if we'll find out the

1854
01:21:15,750 --> 01:21:13,600
name of those organizations i have no

1855
01:21:17,590 --> 01:21:15,760
idea right what i can tell you right now

1856
01:21:20,470 --> 01:21:17,600
in any court of law i can prove beyond a

1857
01:21:23,189 --> 01:21:20,480
shadow of doubt that there has been u.s

1858
01:21:25,110 --> 01:21:23,199
uh involvement with cases dating back to

1859
01:21:26,790 --> 01:21:25,120
the seven since the termination of blue

1860
01:21:29,750 --> 01:21:26,800
book it's never stopped

1861
01:21:30,709 --> 01:21:29,760
well in in in in the film i know what i

1862
01:21:32,629 --> 01:21:30,719
saw

1863
01:21:34,149 --> 01:21:32,639
it it's there in the title

1864
01:21:36,390 --> 01:21:34,159
and so

1865
01:21:37,350 --> 01:21:36,400
when you take that approach and we apply

1866
01:21:39,590 --> 01:21:37,360
it to

1867
01:21:40,830 --> 01:21:39,600
today i was talking to lou about this

1868
01:21:43,669 --> 01:21:40,840
last night

1869
01:21:45,669 --> 01:21:43,679
where apparently

1870
01:21:46,950 --> 01:21:45,679
the united states navy

1871
01:21:48,390 --> 01:21:46,960
pilots

1872
01:21:50,870 --> 01:21:48,400
are better

1873
01:21:52,709 --> 01:21:50,880
than the air force pilots they know how

1874
01:21:54,229 --> 01:21:52,719
to take pictures they know how to talk

1875
01:21:57,110 --> 01:21:54,239
they know what they're seeing they know

1876
01:21:58,390 --> 01:21:57,120
how to do this and apparently they're

1877
01:22:00,470 --> 01:21:58,400
okay

1878
01:22:02,310 --> 01:22:00,480
with talking about this and they're not

1879
01:22:03,990 --> 01:22:02,320
afraid to do that

1880
01:22:05,910 --> 01:22:04,000
on the other hand

1881
01:22:08,149 --> 01:22:05,920
we haven't heard from one air force

1882
01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:08,159
pilot forget about the air force i'm

1883
01:22:12,310 --> 01:22:10,080
just talking about the pilots in general

1884
01:22:14,390 --> 01:22:12,320
why do you think that is

1885
01:22:17,189 --> 01:22:14,400
if it looks like a duck and it walks

1886
01:22:20,629 --> 01:22:17,199
like a duck guess what

1887
01:22:21,430 --> 01:22:20,639
so the air force has a lot more to hide

1888
01:22:24,709 --> 01:22:21,440
right

1889
01:22:26,550 --> 01:22:24,719
they cannot reveal what they know

1890
01:22:28,550 --> 01:22:26,560
without revealing what they don't know

1891
01:22:30,950 --> 01:22:28,560
and exposing their vulnerabilities

1892
01:22:32,390 --> 01:22:30,960
that's my belief on it they've got a lot

1893
01:22:34,870 --> 01:22:32,400
more to hide

1894
01:22:37,430 --> 01:22:34,880
and they've got a lot

1895
01:22:39,430 --> 01:22:37,440
more to explain

1896
01:22:40,790 --> 01:22:39,440
and i think explaining what they know is

1897
01:22:42,550 --> 01:22:40,800
going to reveal their vulnerabilities

1898
01:22:44,870 --> 01:22:42,560
and they just don't want to do that how

1899
01:22:46,070 --> 01:22:44,880
did the air force get so cocky about

1900
01:22:48,070 --> 01:22:46,080
this

1901
01:22:50,390 --> 01:22:48,080
right they're not afraid of the senate

1902
01:22:53,510 --> 01:22:50,400
or answering to elected officials or

1903
01:22:55,590 --> 01:22:53,520
even the president how did they how did

1904
01:22:57,750 --> 01:22:55,600
they work themselves into this position

1905
01:22:59,189 --> 01:22:57,760
where they're they're not afraid they'll

1906
01:23:00,390 --> 01:22:59,199
just they don't have to answer to

1907
01:23:01,270 --> 01:23:00,400
anybody

1908
01:23:03,030 --> 01:23:01,280
you know

1909
01:23:04,149 --> 01:23:03,040
i think they're concerned i would

1910
01:23:05,590 --> 01:23:04,159
imagine

1911
01:23:07,270 --> 01:23:05,600
that they are

1912
01:23:08,870 --> 01:23:07,280
you know like i said earlier that you

1913
01:23:10,790 --> 01:23:08,880
can't put the genie back in the bottle i

1914
01:23:13,270 --> 01:23:10,800
mean it's out now right

1915
01:23:14,390 --> 01:23:13,280
where it's going from here i don't know

1916
01:23:16,470 --> 01:23:14,400
but

1917
01:23:20,390 --> 01:23:16,480
the

1918
01:23:23,110 --> 01:23:20,400
like to see

1919
01:23:24,550 --> 01:23:23,120
some uh you know continued efforts to

1920
01:23:25,669 --> 01:23:24,560
expose their

1921
01:23:28,390 --> 01:23:25,679
reticence

1922
01:23:29,350 --> 01:23:28,400
uh to come forward and

1923
01:23:31,830 --> 01:23:29,360
um

1924
01:23:35,270 --> 01:23:31,840
but again i understand why they're quiet

1925
01:23:37,110 --> 01:23:35,280
i it makes sense to me uh i don't like

1926
01:23:39,590 --> 01:23:37,120
it i don't agree with it i'd like them

1927
01:23:41,350 --> 01:23:39,600
to come out but but but uh but i

1928
01:23:43,350 --> 01:23:41,360
understand why you know can you think

1929
01:23:44,070 --> 01:23:43,360
about it the air force is responsible

1930
01:23:46,550 --> 01:23:44,080
for

1931
01:23:49,030 --> 01:23:46,560
securing our airspace and they can't

1932
01:23:51,350 --> 01:23:49,040
secure our airspace so they would have

1933
01:23:53,110 --> 01:23:51,360
to admit that these things are real and

1934
01:23:54,470 --> 01:23:53,120
they're whizzing around with impunity

1935
01:23:56,470 --> 01:23:54,480
they're shutting off nukes they're

1936
01:23:59,030 --> 01:23:56,480
turning on nukes they're doing what they

1937
01:24:00,629 --> 01:23:59,040
want when they want where they want

1938
01:24:02,149 --> 01:24:00,639
and that's just not

1939
01:24:03,110 --> 01:24:02,159
the type of information that they would

1940
01:24:07,270 --> 01:24:03,120
want to

1941
01:24:08,470 --> 01:24:07,280
your dog looks at me

1942
01:24:10,310 --> 01:24:08,480
i'm just letting you know what's his

1943
01:24:11,189 --> 01:24:10,320
name

1944
01:24:12,790 --> 01:24:11,199
duke

1945
01:24:15,669 --> 01:24:12,800
yeah he's a little yorkie terrier yeah

1946
01:24:18,709 --> 01:24:17,669
he's like came in to see what's going on

1947
01:24:20,310 --> 01:24:18,719
yeah yeah

1948
01:24:21,990 --> 01:24:20,320
what's up with that dude duke come here

1949
01:24:23,910 --> 01:24:22,000
duke are you doing another interview no

1950
01:24:26,070 --> 01:24:23,920
i'm not i've been thinking about i've

1951
01:24:28,310 --> 01:24:26,080
been doing any interviews

1952
01:24:30,870 --> 01:24:28,320
you got me you know you got me literally

1953
01:24:34,310 --> 01:24:30,880
i walked from the edit room to you to do

1954
01:24:40,950 --> 01:24:36,709
and duke i'm i'm interviewing the two of

1955
01:24:42,390 --> 01:24:40,960
you um why do you think james uh capitol

1956
01:24:44,790 --> 01:24:42,400
hill now

1957
01:24:48,550 --> 01:24:44,800
uh is so interested

1958
01:24:52,229 --> 01:24:48,560
in the ua ufo uap subject is it

1959
01:24:53,590 --> 01:24:52,239
is it for answers on et life and and

1960
01:24:56,470 --> 01:24:53,600
what is out there

1961
01:24:57,990 --> 01:24:56,480
or is it something else

1962
01:24:59,669 --> 01:24:58,000
well before i answer that question i'd

1963
01:25:01,590 --> 01:24:59,679
like to i'd like to comment on something

1964
01:25:03,189 --> 01:25:01,600
that's baffling to me

1965
01:25:04,870 --> 01:25:03,199
is that that is

1966
01:25:08,229 --> 01:25:04,880
it it

1967
01:25:09,510 --> 01:25:08,239
it's amazing that

1968
01:25:10,310 --> 01:25:09,520
the

1969
01:25:13,750 --> 01:25:10,320
full

1970
01:25:15,430 --> 01:25:13,760
force and influence and power of the

1971
01:25:17,189 --> 01:25:15,440
media has

1972
01:25:19,510 --> 01:25:17,199
has not been

1973
01:25:21,030 --> 01:25:19,520
applied to

1974
01:25:23,669 --> 01:25:21,040
forcing the government's hand for

1975
01:25:25,189 --> 01:25:23,679
answers forcing the military it's like

1976
01:25:27,030 --> 01:25:25,199
you know they're much more concerned

1977
01:25:29,270 --> 01:25:27,040
about following you know a president's

1978
01:25:31,430 --> 01:25:29,280
sexual peccadillos or their taxes it's

1979
01:25:35,270 --> 01:25:31,440
like excuse me

1980
01:25:37,270 --> 01:25:35,280
we're all in accord that if true

1981
01:25:41,189 --> 01:25:37,280
this would be the most significant

1982
01:25:42,149 --> 01:25:41,199
discovery significant story of our time

1983
01:25:44,870 --> 01:25:42,159
and

1984
01:25:47,590 --> 01:25:44,880
there have been very high level people

1985
01:25:49,830 --> 01:25:47,600
talking about recovered material i mean

1986
01:25:51,110 --> 01:25:49,840
just the fact that senator harry reid

1987
01:25:52,550 --> 01:25:51,120
the former senate majority leader

1988
01:25:53,910 --> 01:25:52,560
whether you love him or hate him doesn't

1989
01:25:56,310 --> 01:25:53,920
matter

1990
01:25:57,830 --> 01:25:56,320
said that we've only seen the tip of the

1991
01:25:59,350 --> 01:25:57,840
iceberg what's been revealed on the

1992
01:26:01,430 --> 01:25:59,360
front page of the new york times is only

1993
01:26:03,990 --> 01:26:01,440
the tip of the iceberg that the evidence

1994
01:26:06,229 --> 01:26:04,000
they're sitting on is so much more

1995
01:26:08,070 --> 01:26:06,239
compelling than what's been seen

1996
01:26:10,470 --> 01:26:08,080
the fact that we're not pressuring them

1997
01:26:13,830 --> 01:26:10,480
and holding their feet to the fire just

1998
01:26:15,430 --> 01:26:13,840
baffles me i i just i it's

1999
01:26:16,390 --> 01:26:15,440
i don't have an explanation for it you

2000
01:26:18,229 --> 01:26:16,400
know

2001
01:26:20,149 --> 01:26:18,239
it's like i think about what i'm doing

2002
01:26:22,070 --> 01:26:20,159
with the minimum resources that i have

2003
01:26:23,990 --> 01:26:22,080
and the resources that they have behind

2004
01:26:25,350 --> 01:26:24,000
them my god

2005
01:26:27,590 --> 01:26:25,360
think about what could happen if the

2006
01:26:28,790 --> 01:26:27,600
media really went at this

2007
01:26:31,430 --> 01:26:28,800
you know

2008
01:26:33,270 --> 01:26:31,440
i i'm encouraged by statements that are

2009
01:26:34,550 --> 01:26:33,280
made by sitting senators i mean it's

2010
01:26:37,750 --> 01:26:34,560
phenomenal i mean

2011
01:26:39,510 --> 01:26:37,760
jimmy you you gotta you know admit like

2012
01:26:40,790 --> 01:26:39,520
it's pretty incredible what's happening

2013
01:26:41,910 --> 01:26:40,800
right now i mean the statements they're

2014
01:26:44,149 --> 01:26:41,920
making about

2015
01:26:46,229 --> 01:26:44,159
look there are these intrusions and

2016
01:26:48,790 --> 01:26:46,239
incursions and you know

2017
01:26:51,110 --> 01:26:48,800
air secured air space there are these

2018
01:26:52,390 --> 01:26:51,120
objects that defy physics as we

2019
01:26:54,629 --> 01:26:52,400
understand it

2020
01:26:56,790 --> 01:26:54,639
flying rings are on our jets

2021
01:26:58,709 --> 01:26:56,800
uh you know we don't know who they are

2022
01:27:00,310 --> 01:26:58,719
where they come from what they want the

2023
01:27:02,870 --> 01:27:00,320
fact that we don't have all hands on

2024
01:27:03,510 --> 01:27:02,880
deck i think chris and i think lou made

2025
01:27:34,390 --> 01:27:03,520
a

2026
01:27:35,110 --> 01:27:34,400
do you

2027
01:27:36,950 --> 01:27:35,120
do

2028
01:27:38,229 --> 01:27:36,960
is it tangible is this something that

2029
01:27:40,229 --> 01:27:38,239
you can feel

2030
01:27:42,149 --> 01:27:40,239
well i i can tell you that when this

2031
01:27:43,590 --> 01:27:42,159
when when the moment i'm not i'm really

2032
01:27:45,350 --> 01:27:43,600
not trying to toot my own horn at all

2033
01:27:46,390 --> 01:27:45,360
but i'm just saying that when

2034
01:27:47,990 --> 01:27:46,400
when

2035
01:27:50,550 --> 01:27:48,000
this film comes out it's going to

2036
01:27:52,470 --> 01:27:50,560
continue pressure it's going to expose

2037
01:27:55,110 --> 01:27:52,480
the u.s involvement

2038
01:27:56,870 --> 01:27:55,120
uh certainly peripherally and

2039
01:27:58,470 --> 01:27:56,880
and and they're going to have more and

2040
01:28:01,030 --> 01:27:58,480
more questions to ask and i'm going to

2041
01:28:03,350 --> 01:28:01,040
keep the i'm i'm not letting up anytime

2042
01:28:05,430 --> 01:28:03,360
soon uh there's a phenomenon too in the

2043
01:28:07,830 --> 01:28:05,440
works um

2044
01:28:10,149 --> 01:28:07,840
you know i'm just going to continue

2045
01:28:11,990 --> 01:28:10,159
churning out i don't want to

2046
01:28:13,669 --> 01:28:12,000
not take advantage of the momentum

2047
01:28:15,910 --> 01:28:13,679
that's happening right now

2048
01:28:18,149 --> 01:28:15,920
what is what is your definition of

2049
01:28:20,470 --> 01:28:18,159
disclosure it means something different

2050
01:28:21,350 --> 01:28:20,480
to everybody but for you what does it

2051
01:28:23,350 --> 01:28:21,360
mean

2052
01:28:25,189 --> 01:28:23,360
well it's funny it's like i remember

2053
01:28:26,709 --> 01:28:25,199
walking with

2054
01:28:30,229 --> 01:28:26,719
uh

2055
01:28:33,750 --> 01:28:30,239
nick nick nick pope in in london

2056
01:28:35,830 --> 01:28:33,760
years ago back jesus 2008 2009 and there

2057
01:28:37,189 --> 01:28:35,840
was a push for transparency within the

2058
01:28:38,310 --> 01:28:37,199
french government the british government

2059
01:28:39,270 --> 01:28:38,320
there were all these files being

2060
01:28:41,510 --> 01:28:39,280
released

2061
01:28:43,510 --> 01:28:41,520
and i said to him basically that like

2062
01:28:45,669 --> 01:28:43,520
you know what what's your anticipation

2063
01:28:47,350 --> 01:28:45,679
of disclosure or do you think it's

2064
01:28:49,189 --> 01:28:47,360
coming anytime soon

2065
01:28:50,790 --> 01:28:49,199
and he said

2066
01:28:54,149 --> 01:28:50,800
you know james it's going to be

2067
01:28:55,750 --> 01:28:54,159
disclosure with a small d not a big d

2068
01:28:58,149 --> 01:28:55,760
and so i thought

2069
01:29:00,070 --> 01:28:58,159
that's my what we're experiencing now do

2070
01:29:02,390 --> 01:29:00,080
i anticipate

2071
01:29:05,750 --> 01:29:02,400
the president of the united states

2072
01:29:07,750 --> 01:29:05,760
uh making some statements on it i'd like

2073
01:29:10,790 --> 01:29:07,760
that to happen

2074
01:29:14,149 --> 01:29:10,800
do i expect it to happen i don't know

2075
01:29:17,669 --> 01:29:15,750
do something

2076
01:29:20,149 --> 01:29:17,679
that will force the government's hand i

2077
01:29:23,030 --> 01:29:20,159
don't know i'd like to see that happen

2078
01:29:24,470 --> 01:29:23,040
i'd like to see a more bold move i mean

2079
01:29:27,189 --> 01:29:24,480
they've been pretty bold

2080
01:29:29,110 --> 01:29:27,199
but but i don't know um but again like

2081
01:29:30,950 --> 01:29:29,120
i've said three times you can't put the

2082
01:29:31,990 --> 01:29:30,960
genie back in the bottle and and so i

2083
01:29:33,189 --> 01:29:32,000
think we're moving in the right

2084
01:29:37,110 --> 01:29:33,199
direction

2085
01:29:38,870 --> 01:29:37,120
is uh the legislation uh that is

2086
01:29:41,910 --> 01:29:38,880
that is now you know part of the budget

2087
01:29:44,550 --> 01:29:41,920
and it's it's you know i guess

2088
01:29:46,950 --> 01:29:44,560
uh it's it's law now i guess we could

2089
01:29:50,470 --> 01:29:46,960
put it that way uh you know jill abraham

2090
01:29:53,750 --> 01:29:50,480
and others that spirited this through

2091
01:29:55,669 --> 01:29:53,760
do you expect the agencies and the

2092
01:29:58,629 --> 01:29:55,679
different branches of the military to

2093
01:30:01,990 --> 01:29:58,639
actually comply to what is there

2094
01:30:03,030 --> 01:30:02,000
and and do we need a you know a ufo uap

2095
01:30:05,750 --> 01:30:03,040
czar

2096
01:30:08,310 --> 01:30:05,760
you know to to make sure that these

2097
01:30:10,229 --> 01:30:08,320
things actually happen

2098
01:30:11,590 --> 01:30:10,239
it's funny um because i've been thinking

2099
01:30:13,510 --> 01:30:11,600
that as well

2100
01:30:15,030 --> 01:30:13,520
and i just went to new york city a

2101
01:30:18,470 --> 01:30:15,040
couple of days ago

2102
01:30:19,990 --> 01:30:18,480
and i hung out with leslie kane

2103
01:30:22,709 --> 01:30:20,000
and leslie and i did an event at the

2104
01:30:24,310 --> 01:30:22,719
national press club in 2007

2105
01:30:25,910 --> 01:30:24,320
and i planted the seed with her i

2106
01:30:27,830 --> 01:30:25,920
thought you know i said wouldn't it be

2107
01:30:29,669 --> 01:30:27,840
fun to do another event

2108
01:30:30,950 --> 01:30:29,679
uh obviously we'd have to do it

2109
01:30:32,709 --> 01:30:30,960
differently

2110
01:30:34,550 --> 01:30:32,719
but one of the one of the things that i

2111
01:30:36,070 --> 01:30:34,560
would like to address

2112
01:30:37,830 --> 01:30:36,080
is

2113
01:30:40,310 --> 01:30:37,840
make the definitive statements from the

2114
01:30:42,790 --> 01:30:40,320
appropriate countries that this is not

2115
01:30:44,390 --> 01:30:42,800
russia this is not china

2116
01:30:46,390 --> 01:30:44,400
and this doesn't appear to be any kind

2117
01:30:48,390 --> 01:30:46,400
of skunk work program in the united

2118
01:30:49,590 --> 01:30:48,400
states i think that

2119
01:30:50,390 --> 01:30:49,600
that too

2120
01:30:52,229 --> 01:30:50,400
uh

2121
01:30:54,310 --> 01:30:52,239
could really

2122
01:30:56,870 --> 01:30:54,320
really force the the government's hand

2123
01:30:58,870 --> 01:30:56,880
on on on further transparency on this

2124
01:31:00,550 --> 01:30:58,880
they're reluctant look they've got so

2125
01:31:01,990 --> 01:31:00,560
much egg on their face they're going to

2126
01:31:03,430 --> 01:31:02,000
have to come forward and they've got a

2127
01:31:05,110 --> 01:31:03,440
lot to hide

2128
01:31:06,709 --> 01:31:05,120
you know i happen to be somebody who's

2129
01:31:09,910 --> 01:31:06,719
convinced that we have

2130
01:31:11,590 --> 01:31:09,920
uh you know recovered material

2131
01:31:13,669 --> 01:31:11,600
i i didn't think 10 years ago i'd be

2132
01:31:15,270 --> 01:31:13,679
saying that publicly but i am and i

2133
01:31:17,910 --> 01:31:15,280
think there's

2134
01:31:18,950 --> 01:31:17,920
sufficient evidence to to support that

2135
01:31:21,189 --> 01:31:18,960
um

2136
01:31:22,950 --> 01:31:21,199
and keep in mind that it's a slippery

2137
01:31:25,030 --> 01:31:22,960
slope i mean once they start

2138
01:31:27,110 --> 01:31:25,040
you know where does it stop i mean

2139
01:31:29,510 --> 01:31:27,120
they're gonna have to come forward and

2140
01:31:31,990 --> 01:31:29,520
admit certain things and that's gonna

2141
01:31:33,430 --> 01:31:32,000
that's gonna increase transparency and

2142
01:31:36,070 --> 01:31:33,440
and push them further and further and

2143
01:31:38,070 --> 01:31:36,080
further at some point if we continue on

2144
01:31:39,430 --> 01:31:38,080
that path they're gonna have to reveal

2145
01:31:40,790 --> 01:31:39,440
that they've got these bodies and

2146
01:31:42,870 --> 01:31:40,800
they've got this debris that they've

2147
01:31:45,590 --> 01:31:42,880
been hiding since 47.

2148
01:31:46,390 --> 01:31:45,600
so uh uh you know i think there's gonna

2149
01:31:47,910 --> 01:31:46,400
be a

2150
01:31:50,070 --> 01:31:47,920
there's gonna be resistance and

2151
01:31:51,750 --> 01:31:50,080
reluctance on their part but we just

2152
01:31:53,350 --> 01:31:51,760
have to keep pushing

2153
01:31:56,709 --> 01:31:53,360
the uh

2154
01:32:00,550 --> 01:31:56,719
the amendment specifically calls for

2155
01:32:02,070 --> 01:32:00,560
two uh unclassified public reports to be

2156
01:32:04,229 --> 01:32:02,080
presented to

2157
01:32:06,550 --> 01:32:04,239
to congress every six months right so

2158
01:32:09,110 --> 01:32:06,560
that would mean sometime in june and

2159
01:32:11,669 --> 01:32:09,120
then repeating again in december and

2160
01:32:14,070 --> 01:32:11,679
then a classified version

2161
01:32:15,669 --> 01:32:14,080
once a year uh

2162
01:32:17,510 --> 01:32:15,679
in december at the end of the fiscal

2163
01:32:20,310 --> 01:32:17,520
year to congress

2164
01:32:22,709 --> 01:32:20,320
do you expect something different this

2165
01:32:23,750 --> 01:32:22,719
time around than the uap task force

2166
01:32:26,950 --> 01:32:23,760
report

2167
01:32:29,669 --> 01:32:26,960
from last june

2168
01:32:31,669 --> 01:32:29,679
do you think that more will be presented

2169
01:32:33,669 --> 01:32:31,679
to us

2170
01:32:36,550 --> 01:32:33,679
not if they had it their way i don't

2171
01:32:38,870 --> 01:32:36,560
think i mean the intelligence agencies

2172
01:32:40,629 --> 01:32:38,880
it's one of the things that i talked to

2173
01:32:42,709 --> 01:32:40,639
senator reid about

2174
01:32:44,709 --> 01:32:42,719
is that look we know this stuff is there

2175
01:32:47,590 --> 01:32:44,719
lou has seen a lot more that than what's

2176
01:32:50,229 --> 01:32:47,600
been released who has the authority

2177
01:32:52,229 --> 01:32:50,239
to actually release this stuff right

2178
01:32:54,550 --> 01:32:52,239
and who are they

2179
01:32:55,990 --> 01:32:54,560
it doesn't seem to be the president of

2180
01:32:57,430 --> 01:32:56,000
the united states

2181
01:33:00,390 --> 01:32:57,440
um

2182
01:33:01,750 --> 01:33:00,400
i'm that that one puzzles me because

2183
01:33:04,870 --> 01:33:01,760
uh we know

2184
01:33:06,629 --> 01:33:04,880
according to very high level people that

2185
01:33:08,070 --> 01:33:06,639
the evidence is there who has the

2186
01:33:10,070 --> 01:33:08,080
authority to release it they're not

2187
01:33:12,070 --> 01:33:10,080
releasing it okay there's lots of videos

2188
01:33:13,590 --> 01:33:12,080
part of atip that haven't been released

2189
01:33:15,110 --> 01:33:13,600
that have been talked about

2190
01:33:16,790 --> 01:33:15,120
that would be much more

2191
01:33:17,990 --> 01:33:16,800
definitive they would shut up the

2192
01:33:19,830 --> 01:33:18,000
skeptics

2193
01:33:21,830 --> 01:33:19,840
you know those segments of videos have

2194
01:33:23,910 --> 01:33:21,840
been cut short and released to the

2195
01:33:25,110 --> 01:33:23,920
general public in fact it was funny i

2196
01:33:27,350 --> 01:33:25,120
was reading like a statement from the

2197
01:33:28,310 --> 01:33:27,360
dod i think it was like 20 20 20 of

2198
01:33:30,390 --> 01:33:28,320
april

2199
01:33:31,910 --> 01:33:30,400
and they were like you know basically

2200
01:33:33,990 --> 01:33:31,920
acknowledging

2201
01:33:36,149 --> 01:33:34,000
authenticating the videos that were you

2202
01:33:37,590 --> 01:33:36,159
know they didn't say exactly walked out

2203
01:33:39,510 --> 01:33:37,600
of the pentagon but the way they said it

2204
01:33:41,669 --> 01:33:39,520
was like basically they were released

2205
01:33:43,750 --> 01:33:41,679
without approval or something you know

2206
01:33:45,430 --> 01:33:43,760
they found a loophole and did that

2207
01:33:49,350 --> 01:33:45,440
um but

2208
01:33:51,669 --> 01:33:49,360
they uh you know i i

2209
01:33:56,310 --> 01:33:51,679
who has

2210
01:33:59,350 --> 01:33:56,320
to force their hand

2211
01:34:01,030 --> 01:33:59,360
on releasing this material and i don't

2212
01:34:02,870 --> 01:34:01,040
have an answer for that yeah it's got to

2213
01:34:04,950 --> 01:34:02,880
be a ufo czar somebody has to be

2214
01:34:06,229 --> 01:34:04,960
appointed and maybe even you know

2215
01:34:07,510 --> 01:34:06,239
somebody like

2216
01:34:09,510 --> 01:34:07,520
if they say no to the president of the

2217
01:34:11,669 --> 01:34:09,520
united states we can't we're going to

2218
01:34:13,750 --> 01:34:11,679
say no to somebody appointed to like you

2219
01:34:15,590 --> 01:34:13,760
know uap task force do you think they're

2220
01:34:18,149 --> 01:34:15,600
going to listen to them well but it

2221
01:34:20,550 --> 01:34:18,159
would be better than nobody there hey

2222
01:34:22,950 --> 01:34:20,560
look i totally agree with you i'm not

2223
01:34:25,350 --> 01:34:22,960
you know at all but i'm just saying like

2224
01:34:27,590 --> 01:34:25,360
if the president of the united states

2225
01:34:29,990 --> 01:34:27,600
can't get this stuff released

2226
01:34:33,590 --> 01:34:30,000
then who has the authority to do so

2227
01:34:35,669 --> 01:34:33,600
attempt a tattooed pit bull named lou

2228
01:34:38,310 --> 01:34:35,679
elizondo

2229
01:34:39,590 --> 01:34:38,320
yeah yeah no i know yeah i you know i

2230
01:34:42,229 --> 01:34:39,600
don't know i just don't have those

2231
01:34:44,830 --> 01:34:42,239
answers i wish i did i you know i

2232
01:34:47,590 --> 01:34:44,840
we have to keep pushing on the

2233
01:34:50,790 --> 01:34:47,600
outside we have to keep

2234
01:34:55,750 --> 01:34:53,510
keep the pressure on and keep educating

2235
01:34:58,870 --> 01:34:55,760
the public and keep educating the the

2236
01:35:01,109 --> 01:34:58,880
so-called mainstream media on this topic

2237
01:35:02,709 --> 01:35:01,119
and uh you know i'm going to continue

2238
01:35:04,629 --> 01:35:02,719
doing it chris has clearly continued

2239
01:35:06,470 --> 01:35:04,639
doing it you're continually doing it the

2240
01:35:08,709 --> 01:35:06,480
other researchers are continually doing

2241
01:35:10,870 --> 01:35:08,719
it and that's all we can do

2242
01:35:14,950 --> 01:35:10,880
now uh i know that you've got to get

2243
01:35:19,109 --> 01:35:17,189
i'm not kidding i'm going to walk

2244
01:35:21,270 --> 01:35:19,119
out of this room and directly back into

2245
01:35:23,750 --> 01:35:21,280
the edit bay i'm going to finish putting

2246
01:35:24,790 --> 01:35:23,760
the film together tonight all the rough

2247
01:35:26,550 --> 01:35:24,800
segments

2248
01:35:29,030 --> 01:35:26,560
and i think it's going to be somewhere

2249
01:35:30,629 --> 01:35:29,040
in the realm of 104 minutes and i'm not

2250
01:35:31,510 --> 01:35:30,639
going to sleep until that's done tonight

2251
01:35:34,790 --> 01:35:31,520
so yeah

2252
01:35:36,070 --> 01:35:34,800
right on you used to send me clips

2253
01:35:38,709 --> 01:35:36,080
jimmy what do you think what do you

2254
01:35:40,790 --> 01:35:38,719
think i haven't seen any clips yet i'll

2255
01:35:43,669 --> 01:35:40,800
do that i'll do that i'll remind me in a

2256
01:35:46,149 --> 01:35:43,679
week

2257
01:35:48,390 --> 01:35:46,159
now um one of uh i wanted to ask you

2258
01:35:49,350 --> 01:35:48,400
this before i let you go um

2259
01:35:58,550 --> 01:35:49,360
the

2260
01:35:59,430 --> 01:35:58,560
were made obviously

2261
01:36:04,790 --> 01:35:59,440
uh

2262
01:36:07,109 --> 01:36:04,800
is is that a possibility this time

2263
01:36:09,430 --> 01:36:07,119
around for a moment of contact

2264
01:36:12,229 --> 01:36:09,440
well it's funny actually it's the first

2265
01:36:13,750 --> 01:36:12,239
uh first film announcement that that

2266
01:36:16,310 --> 01:36:13,760
i've that i've made where we got a lot

2267
01:36:18,390 --> 01:36:16,320
of publicity for i did i didn't expect

2268
01:36:19,590 --> 01:36:18,400
that but what we did just because i

2269
01:36:21,189 --> 01:36:19,600
think they said something like from the

2270
01:36:22,709 --> 01:36:21,199
director of the phenomenon or something

2271
01:36:25,510 --> 01:36:22,719
and it got like written up in the

2272
01:36:26,950 --> 01:36:25,520
variety or one of these big

2273
01:36:29,189 --> 01:36:26,960
publications

2274
01:36:31,270 --> 01:36:29,199
and as a result of that we've had

2275
01:36:33,430 --> 01:36:31,280
tremendous interest in in the

2276
01:36:35,109 --> 01:36:33,440
acquisition of the film we haven't gone

2277
01:36:36,629 --> 01:36:35,119
with anyone in particular yet because

2278
01:36:39,430 --> 01:36:36,639
we're going to kind of see how it pans

2279
01:36:40,550 --> 01:36:39,440
out would i like to see a theatrical

2280
01:36:43,590 --> 01:36:40,560
roll out

2281
01:36:45,510 --> 01:36:43,600
i don't necessarily know whether

2282
01:36:48,470 --> 01:36:45,520
the moment of contact would be the

2283
01:36:49,510 --> 01:36:48,480
appropriate film for that i don't know

2284
01:36:50,950 --> 01:36:49,520
we'll see

2285
01:36:53,030 --> 01:36:50,960
but

2286
01:36:54,870 --> 01:36:53,040
depending on how things pan out with

2287
01:36:55,990 --> 01:36:54,880
with with with some of the contacts that

2288
01:36:57,350 --> 01:36:56,000
we have

2289
01:36:59,430 --> 01:36:57,360
some additional evidence that we're

2290
01:37:01,830 --> 01:36:59,440
pursuing right now which is very very

2291
01:37:03,109 --> 01:37:01,840
exciting i'm biting my nails every night

2292
01:37:04,870 --> 01:37:03,119
um

2293
01:37:06,870 --> 01:37:04,880
i don't know yet but you had me on in a

2294
01:37:09,669 --> 01:37:06,880
couple months and i'll fill you in well

2295
01:37:11,669 --> 01:37:09,679
you do you deserve the red carpet my man

2296
01:37:14,070 --> 01:37:11,679
you do you think i don't you know i

2297
01:37:16,310 --> 01:37:14,080
don't i don't you know i don't

2298
01:37:18,790 --> 01:37:16,320
you deserve it no you didn't know come

2299
01:37:21,430 --> 01:37:18,800
on you can you can be you could be as

2300
01:37:23,669 --> 01:37:21,440
humble as as you'd like and i i respect

2301
01:37:24,950 --> 01:37:23,679
that you deserve the red carpet all the

2302
01:37:27,750 --> 01:37:24,960
best now

2303
01:37:28,709 --> 01:37:27,760
get back to work take duke he's waiting

2304
01:37:31,350 --> 01:37:28,719
for you

2305
01:37:33,109 --> 01:37:31,360
get in there get in there start editing

2306
01:37:34,709 --> 01:37:33,119
and thank you for taking the time with

2307
01:37:36,709 --> 01:37:34,719
us tonight james and you know i

2308
01:37:39,030 --> 01:37:36,719
appreciate it and so does the audience

2309
01:37:40,629 --> 01:37:39,040
oh well thank you so much for having any

2310
01:37:41,910 --> 01:37:40,639
interest in what i'm doing i appreciate

2311
01:37:43,189 --> 01:37:41,920
that too so

2312
01:37:45,270 --> 01:37:43,199
thank you jimmy thank you for your

2313
01:37:46,629 --> 01:37:45,280
persistence because

2314
01:37:48,149 --> 01:37:46,639
you know if you weren't persistent i

2315
01:37:49,270 --> 01:37:48,159
wouldn't have joined you tonight i kept

2316
01:37:51,750 --> 01:37:49,280
like no

2317
01:37:53,750 --> 01:37:51,760
i'm telling everybody no

2318
01:37:55,590 --> 01:37:53,760
i gave you my best pitch man and you

2319
01:37:57,910 --> 01:37:55,600
took you took the bait you took the bait

2320
01:38:00,709 --> 01:37:57,920
you did you did you did you had all the

2321
01:38:02,629 --> 01:38:00,719
artwork all worked out

2322
01:38:05,910 --> 01:38:02,639
it's so funny you know what let's not

2323
01:38:08,790 --> 01:38:05,920
tell everybody my secrets okay but

2324
01:38:11,350 --> 01:38:08,800
hey james behave and be well go get to

2325
01:38:14,149 --> 01:38:11,360
work i can't wait for this film and and

2326
01:38:16,070 --> 01:38:14,159
i'm hanging you up and uh so much and i

2327
01:38:18,229 --> 01:38:16,080
appreciate all you do jamie thank you

2328
01:38:19,830 --> 01:38:18,239
man i really appreciate it i love you

2329
01:38:22,390 --> 01:38:19,840
brother yeah i love you right back james

2330
01:38:24,229 --> 01:38:22,400
thank you so much and and thank you for

2331
01:38:27,430 --> 01:38:24,239
letting us know the name of the film it

2332
01:38:29,270 --> 01:38:27,440
is moment of contact james get back to

2333
01:38:30,870 --> 01:38:29,280
work thank you so much my friend

2334
01:38:32,550 --> 01:38:30,880
thank you bye

2335
01:38:34,229 --> 01:38:32,560
i'm gonna take a quick break right here

2336
01:38:37,510 --> 01:38:34,239
this is fade to black

2337
01:38:39,669 --> 01:38:37,520
and uh james is literally going back to

2338
01:38:41,590 --> 01:38:39,679
work i'm gonna swing back after this

2339
01:38:42,790 --> 01:38:41,600
short break i've got a surprise guest

2340
01:38:44,470 --> 01:38:42,800
coming in

2341
01:38:46,620 --> 01:38:44,480
this is faded black i'm really super

2342
01:38:52,460 --> 01:38:46,630
stay right there

2343
01:38:52,470 --> 01:39:03,030
[Music]

2344
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:06,149
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2345
01:39:10,950 --> 01:39:08,330
you're listening to fade to black

2346
01:39:13,109 --> 01:39:10,960
[Applause]

2347
01:39:14,629 --> 01:39:13,119
you're listening to jimmy church and

2348
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:14,639
fade to black

2349
01:39:19,690 --> 01:39:31,510
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2350
01:39:36,070 --> 01:39:33,990
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[Music]

2418
01:42:28,550 --> 01:42:26,550
you are listening to fate to black with

2419
01:42:31,430 --> 01:42:28,560
jimmy church on the game changing

2420
01:42:36,790 --> 01:42:33,750
oh hi i'm reece evans you're listening

2421
01:42:39,669 --> 01:42:36,800
to jimmy church this is revolution the

2422
01:42:42,950 --> 01:42:39,679
revolution will not be televised the

2423
01:42:47,590 --> 01:42:42,960
revolution is on radio

2424
01:43:25,350 --> 01:43:16,710
[Music]

2425
01:43:28,390 --> 01:43:26,950
all right welcome back fade to black i'm

2426
01:43:31,030 --> 01:43:28,400
here with steven church i got to thank

2427
01:43:32,550 --> 01:43:31,040
james fox for coming in tonight very

2428
01:43:35,350 --> 01:43:32,560
busy man

2429
01:43:36,830 --> 01:43:35,360
and i know exactly what uh

2430
01:43:40,470 --> 01:43:36,840
he's been telling me what he's been

2431
01:43:42,149 --> 01:43:40,480
doing and uh but yes he

2432
01:43:44,149 --> 01:43:42,159
absolutely wanted to come in tonight and

2433
01:43:46,390 --> 01:43:44,159
hang out give us the update of what is

2434
01:43:48,229 --> 01:43:46,400
going on it uh is it

2435
01:43:50,790 --> 01:43:48,239
it's a very important film

2436
01:43:53,030 --> 01:43:50,800
and we now know the name it was

2437
01:43:55,430 --> 01:43:53,040
announced tonight for the first time

2438
01:43:56,550 --> 01:43:55,440
here on fade to black it is called

2439
01:43:58,070 --> 01:43:56,560
moment

2440
01:43:59,990 --> 01:43:58,080
of contact

2441
01:44:01,910 --> 01:44:00,000
and uh very excited about this film and

2442
01:44:03,109 --> 01:44:01,920
now i i have to you know it's like the

2443
01:44:05,030 --> 01:44:03,119
post game

2444
01:44:06,629 --> 01:44:05,040
uh wrap up show

2445
01:44:08,070 --> 01:44:06,639
with race hobbes race how you doing

2446
01:44:10,709 --> 01:44:08,080
tonight

2447
01:44:14,229 --> 01:44:10,719
i am fantastic jimmy let's get this echo

2448
01:44:16,709 --> 01:44:14,239
and stuff out of the way here okay

2449
01:44:19,510 --> 01:44:16,719
i got to watch race hobbes play air

2450
01:44:21,350 --> 01:44:19,520
guitar in the

2451
01:44:23,590 --> 01:44:21,360
and break the only guitar you're ever

2452
01:44:26,390 --> 01:44:23,600
going to see or hear me play man you

2453
01:44:29,189 --> 01:44:26,400
were packing man you were just all

2454
01:44:31,590 --> 01:44:29,199
well you have the best bumper music in

2455
01:44:32,790 --> 01:44:31,600
all of talk radio and everybody knows it

2456
01:44:36,070 --> 01:44:32,800
and

2457
01:44:37,189 --> 01:44:36,080
that particular track is my favorite out

2458
01:44:41,030 --> 01:44:37,199
of all of them

2459
01:44:43,750 --> 01:44:41,040
yeah it's called flavo phrase

2460
01:44:46,390 --> 01:44:43,760
flavo phrase named after chris frazier

2461
01:44:47,270 --> 01:44:46,400
the drummer on that uh flavor phrase

2462
01:44:48,470 --> 01:44:47,280
okay

2463
01:44:50,550 --> 01:44:48,480
um

2464
01:44:53,669 --> 01:44:50,560
uh what

2465
01:44:54,550 --> 01:44:53,679
what a great week on fade to black and

2466
01:44:56,950 --> 01:44:54,560
uh

2467
01:44:58,550 --> 01:44:56,960
and and last night with lou elizondo i

2468
01:45:00,070 --> 01:44:58,560
want to get some of your comments on

2469
01:45:02,790 --> 01:45:00,080
that too as well but

2470
01:45:04,790 --> 01:45:02,800
um james fox

2471
01:45:09,990 --> 01:45:04,800
he

2472
01:45:11,109 --> 01:45:10,000
of a person as as as you can get to know

2473
01:45:20,149 --> 01:45:11,119
and

2474
01:45:23,030 --> 01:45:20,159
he brought up the tv series uh that

2475
01:45:24,950 --> 01:45:23,040
shall not be named but there was a an

2476
01:45:26,790 --> 01:45:24,960
incident that happened that caused him

2477
01:45:28,149 --> 01:45:26,800
to quit the tick with the network to

2478
01:45:29,430 --> 01:45:28,159
walk away

2479
01:45:32,470 --> 01:45:29,440
um

2480
01:45:34,149 --> 01:45:32,480
and it is because uh

2481
01:45:36,310 --> 01:45:34,159
of his passion

2482
01:45:37,189 --> 01:45:36,320
and they played a little prank on him

2483
01:45:42,229 --> 01:45:37,199
and

2484
01:45:44,629 --> 01:45:42,239
but we all wait for that moment of of

2485
01:45:45,510 --> 01:45:44,639
like real contact right we wait for that

2486
01:45:47,830 --> 01:45:45,520
moment

2487
01:45:50,149 --> 01:45:47,840
and that was it was a little thing that

2488
01:45:52,390 --> 01:45:50,159
was played on him but his emotions got

2489
01:45:53,590 --> 01:45:52,400
the best of them he thought he had made

2490
01:45:54,550 --> 01:45:53,600
contact

2491
01:45:57,430 --> 01:45:54,560
and

2492
01:46:00,550 --> 01:45:57,440
he walked away he walked away from the

2493
01:46:03,590 --> 01:46:00,560
network it's that's how

2494
01:46:06,149 --> 01:46:03,600
uh passionate he is about the subject he

2495
01:46:08,709 --> 01:46:06,159
has been chasing this forever

2496
01:46:10,470 --> 01:46:08,719
and and his movies speak for themselves

2497
01:46:13,270 --> 01:46:10,480
don't they

2498
01:46:14,790 --> 01:46:13,280
look james fox is the real

2499
01:46:16,390 --> 01:46:14,800
deal

2500
01:46:20,310 --> 01:46:16,400
um

2501
01:46:22,950 --> 01:46:20,320
since i got into the media aspect of

2502
01:46:25,270 --> 01:46:22,960
sort of the unknown the ufo subject the

2503
01:46:28,709 --> 01:46:25,280
abduction ufo

2504
01:46:32,149 --> 01:46:28,719
crop circles implants all of it

2505
01:46:33,109 --> 01:46:32,159
going public you got to have thick skin

2506
01:46:36,709 --> 01:46:33,119
and

2507
01:46:38,550 --> 01:46:36,719
i learned real quick

2508
01:46:41,109 --> 01:46:38,560
who my

2509
01:46:42,390 --> 01:46:41,119
mentors and models

2510
01:46:44,390 --> 01:46:42,400
needed to be

2511
01:46:46,950 --> 01:46:44,400
to get where i wanted to be sitting in

2512
01:46:48,950 --> 01:46:46,960
this chair right now right and james fox

2513
01:46:50,390 --> 01:46:48,960
was at the top of that list i remember

2514
01:46:52,550 --> 01:46:50,400
watching him

2515
01:46:54,390 --> 01:46:52,560
hold the line

2516
01:46:55,270 --> 01:46:54,400
on cnn

2517
01:46:59,030 --> 01:46:55,280
um

2518
01:47:04,790 --> 01:47:02,070
this is not

2519
01:47:07,350 --> 01:47:04,800
a profit potential for him

2520
01:47:09,030 --> 01:47:07,360
this guy is not

2521
01:47:11,270 --> 01:47:09,040
making

2522
01:47:15,350 --> 01:47:11,280
dump truck loads of money off of what

2523
01:47:17,189 --> 01:47:15,360
he's doing it cost a lot of money

2524
01:47:19,350 --> 01:47:17,199
to go to africa

2525
01:47:21,270 --> 01:47:19,360
to go to australia to go all over the

2526
01:47:23,510 --> 01:47:21,280
world and and

2527
01:47:25,510 --> 01:47:23,520
lugging all kinds of equipment and and

2528
01:47:28,470 --> 01:47:25,520
cameras and

2529
01:47:30,229 --> 01:47:28,480
i mean what he does is uh

2530
01:47:32,709 --> 01:47:30,239
what you're seeing what you're hearing

2531
01:47:34,629 --> 01:47:32,719
when you get his product

2532
01:47:35,990 --> 01:47:34,639
in the end is

2533
01:47:37,990 --> 01:47:36,000
a 100

2534
01:47:39,270 --> 01:47:38,000
noble effort

2535
01:47:41,830 --> 01:47:39,280
from

2536
01:47:46,070 --> 01:47:41,840
a true player

2537
01:47:47,830 --> 01:47:46,080
in civilian disclosure right

2538
01:47:50,709 --> 01:47:47,840
that's what you get when you get james

2539
01:47:53,109 --> 01:47:50,719
fox james fox comes from

2540
01:47:55,669 --> 01:47:53,119
great stock

2541
01:47:58,390 --> 01:47:55,679
he does he does man he's just a great

2542
01:47:59,270 --> 01:47:58,400
father he's a good example

2543
01:48:02,629 --> 01:47:59,280
of

2544
01:48:05,830 --> 01:48:02,639
what and how to be all the way around

2545
01:48:07,750 --> 01:48:05,840
yeah i hold him in the highest regard

2546
01:48:09,350 --> 01:48:07,760
when he was in i'm going to share this

2547
01:48:11,270 --> 01:48:09,360
with the audience i don't think i've

2548
01:48:13,830 --> 01:48:11,280
mentioned this before race i don't know

2549
01:48:17,990 --> 01:48:13,840
if you've heard uh this story but

2550
01:48:21,189 --> 01:48:18,000
when he was in the editing stages of the

2551
01:48:25,990 --> 01:48:23,750
the two of us were were talking uh quite

2552
01:48:27,669 --> 01:48:26,000
a bit through this this period

2553
01:48:29,270 --> 01:48:27,679
and

2554
01:48:31,030 --> 01:48:29,280
the power

2555
01:48:32,629 --> 01:48:31,040
was going out

2556
01:48:34,790 --> 01:48:32,639
in his neighborhood

2557
01:48:37,270 --> 01:48:34,800
and sometimes you know these brownouts

2558
01:48:39,510 --> 01:48:37,280
and these other things and

2559
01:48:41,990 --> 01:48:39,520
he had to go

2560
01:48:44,229 --> 01:48:42,000
and get generators

2561
01:48:46,709 --> 01:48:44,239
and bring him back to the house

2562
01:48:49,430 --> 01:48:46,719
and fire those up so he could get the

2563
01:48:50,629 --> 01:48:49,440
editing done and then but before that

2564
01:48:52,790 --> 01:48:50,639
happened

2565
01:48:53,590 --> 01:48:52,800
he had to move out

2566
01:48:58,870 --> 01:48:53,600
uh

2567
01:49:02,229 --> 01:48:58,880
know go to another location lug all the

2568
01:49:04,629 --> 01:49:02,239
computers um and the hard drives to

2569
01:49:05,510 --> 01:49:04,639
continue the editing to get the work

2570
01:49:07,590 --> 01:49:05,520
done

2571
01:49:09,669 --> 01:49:07,600
most people would just lay down and go

2572
01:49:12,390 --> 01:49:09,679
okay all right i guess i gotta take a

2573
01:49:13,350 --> 01:49:12,400
couple of weeks off right not james fox

2574
01:49:18,950 --> 01:49:13,360
man

2575
01:49:20,390 --> 01:49:18,960
i'm in a rented back room at a tire shop

2576
01:49:23,030 --> 01:49:20,400
in oakland

2577
01:49:26,629 --> 01:49:23,040
it's like what it was literally like i

2578
01:49:28,870 --> 01:49:26,639
mean like i remember uh communicating

2579
01:49:32,070 --> 01:49:28,880
with him and the gang when they were

2580
01:49:33,669 --> 01:49:32,080
you know leasing uh you know this

2581
01:49:35,990 --> 01:49:33,679
um sort of a

2582
01:49:37,430 --> 01:49:36,000
like a mother-in-law behind some lady's

2583
01:49:39,270 --> 01:49:37,440
house

2584
01:49:40,950 --> 01:49:39,280
and it didn't even have a bathroom like

2585
01:49:44,070 --> 01:49:40,960
they're literally going out peeing on a

2586
01:49:46,709 --> 01:49:44,080
palm tree out back yeah yeah yeah yeah

2587
01:49:49,109 --> 01:49:46,719
i remember lee spiegel saying oh that's

2588
01:49:51,589 --> 01:49:49,119
right lee was there lee was part of yes

2589
01:49:54,790 --> 01:49:51,599
yes yes yes he said yes lee called me up

2590
01:49:56,390 --> 01:49:54,800
he's in race literally literally

2591
01:49:58,550 --> 01:49:56,400
you know we're we're

2592
01:50:00,470 --> 01:49:58,560
defecate like

2593
01:50:02,629 --> 01:50:00,480
number two but going outside to use the

2594
01:50:04,310 --> 01:50:02,639
bathroom and like he said i'm not going

2595
01:50:06,310 --> 01:50:04,320
back until they get the bathroom

2596
01:50:08,870 --> 01:50:06,320
arrangements sorted

2597
01:50:09,669 --> 01:50:08,880
and i just fell out of my chair laughing

2598
01:50:13,669 --> 01:50:09,679
but

2599
01:50:18,149 --> 01:50:15,669
that's the dedication for people who

2600
01:50:19,910 --> 01:50:18,159
have real passion things small things

2601
01:50:22,390 --> 01:50:19,920
like that don't matter

2602
01:50:23,109 --> 01:50:22,400
it's you know they'll set up and you

2603
01:50:25,270 --> 01:50:23,119
know

2604
01:50:26,950 --> 01:50:25,280
they'll set up in a in a storage

2605
01:50:29,589 --> 01:50:26,960
building if that's the only place

2606
01:50:32,149 --> 01:50:29,599
they've got to do the work they can do

2607
01:50:34,629 --> 01:50:32,159
yeah um and now in this this new film

2608
01:50:36,390 --> 01:50:34,639
varganya uh it's now called moment of

2609
01:50:37,430 --> 01:50:36,400
contact by the way

2610
01:50:40,470 --> 01:50:37,440
um

2611
01:50:41,830 --> 01:50:40,480
i expect now i don't know now i'm not

2612
01:50:43,669 --> 01:50:41,840
saying that i've got some secret

2613
01:50:44,790 --> 01:50:43,679
information i'm not i'm not gonna go

2614
01:50:45,589 --> 01:50:44,800
there

2615
01:50:47,830 --> 01:50:45,599
but

2616
01:50:49,430 --> 01:50:47,840
i expect

2617
01:50:53,430 --> 01:50:49,440
some stuff

2618
01:50:56,149 --> 01:50:53,440
to be revealed in this film project

2619
01:50:59,189 --> 01:50:56,159
that uh the public has never known about

2620
01:51:01,109 --> 01:50:59,199
or ever seen before

2621
01:51:04,470 --> 01:51:01,119
and he's been on this for a very long

2622
01:51:07,030 --> 01:51:04,480
time and he has had access to things and

2623
01:51:09,750 --> 01:51:07,040
again i'm not saying anything i am not

2624
01:51:12,790 --> 01:51:09,760
but i i have the feeling

2625
01:51:14,950 --> 01:51:12,800
in in speaking with james that we need

2626
01:51:17,830 --> 01:51:14,960
to buckle up and get ready i i think

2627
01:51:20,629 --> 01:51:17,840
this film is going to be huge and it is

2628
01:51:21,830 --> 01:51:20,639
going to be revealing i can feel it in

2629
01:51:24,790 --> 01:51:21,840
my bones

2630
01:51:26,790 --> 01:51:24,800
yeah yeah well

2631
01:51:28,990 --> 01:51:26,800
i hate it

2632
01:51:30,390 --> 01:51:29,000
and i always have because i'm

2633
01:51:33,589 --> 01:51:30,400
[Music]

2634
01:51:36,390 --> 01:51:33,599
spoiled rotten and i hate having to wait

2635
01:51:38,550 --> 01:51:36,400
to get james fox's work yep

2636
01:51:40,390 --> 01:51:38,560
seven and eight years is

2637
01:51:42,790 --> 01:51:40,400
far too long

2638
01:51:45,109 --> 01:51:42,800
in this world today

2639
01:51:47,589 --> 01:51:45,119
now when he started that's how you get

2640
01:51:49,750 --> 01:51:47,599
down but now you can do a lot of this

2641
01:51:51,510 --> 01:51:49,760
stuff a lot faster than you used to be

2642
01:51:55,109 --> 01:51:51,520
able to do

2643
01:51:56,709 --> 01:51:55,119
at the same at the same production level

2644
01:51:59,910 --> 01:51:56,719
and the same

2645
01:52:01,510 --> 01:51:59,920
quality that you expect from james fox

2646
01:52:02,870 --> 01:52:01,520
so

2647
01:52:13,189 --> 01:52:02,880
i

2648
01:52:15,189 --> 01:52:13,199
because

2649
01:52:18,310 --> 01:52:15,199
ladies and gentlemen you know we can all

2650
01:52:19,589 --> 01:52:18,320
wake up tomorrow and james fox just be

2651
01:52:21,669 --> 01:52:19,599
done

2652
01:52:24,070 --> 01:52:21,679
something more profound much more

2653
01:52:25,510 --> 01:52:24,080
important may happen in his life and we

2654
01:52:28,709 --> 01:52:25,520
don't have

2655
01:52:31,109 --> 01:52:28,719
the luxury of knowing james has

2656
01:52:34,390 --> 01:52:31,119
something coming i know right

2657
01:52:36,470 --> 01:52:34,400
it's exciting man i know i know he puts

2658
01:52:39,510 --> 01:52:36,480
something out there

2659
01:52:40,629 --> 01:52:39,520
you can put it on the front

2660
01:52:43,109 --> 01:52:40,639
of

2661
01:52:45,030 --> 01:52:43,119
all the lists that you would provide

2662
01:52:47,510 --> 01:52:45,040
somebody new

2663
01:52:49,669 --> 01:52:47,520
coming to uh

2664
01:52:53,350 --> 01:52:49,679
sort of nurture an interest in the

2665
01:52:55,510 --> 01:52:53,360
subject of of ufos and contact and this

2666
01:52:58,390 --> 01:52:55,520
is what but this won't ever let you down

2667
01:53:00,229 --> 01:52:58,400
yeah the community i don't think they

2668
01:53:02,229 --> 01:53:00,239
fully appreciate

2669
01:53:05,990 --> 01:53:02,239
yet because they don't know

2670
01:53:07,430 --> 01:53:06,000
um who james fox is in representing our

2671
01:53:09,430 --> 01:53:07,440
community

2672
01:53:13,270 --> 01:53:09,440
you pick up variety the hollywood

2673
01:53:13,990 --> 01:53:13,280
reporter these trade rags and and

2674
01:53:16,149 --> 01:53:14,000
uh

2675
01:53:18,149 --> 01:53:16,159
trade websites

2676
01:53:21,430 --> 01:53:18,159
they don't talk about ufos they don't

2677
01:53:24,470 --> 01:53:21,440
talk about ufo documentaries they do now

2678
01:53:26,070 --> 01:53:24,480
because of james fox and these articles

2679
01:53:28,629 --> 01:53:26,080
break

2680
01:53:31,109 --> 01:53:28,639
about james and what he is doing

2681
01:53:33,669 --> 01:53:31,119
in trade publications and this has never

2682
01:53:36,390 --> 01:53:33,679
happened before and our community is

2683
01:53:38,629 --> 01:53:36,400
being represented uh in such a way by

2684
01:53:41,430 --> 01:53:38,639
james fox that we need to stop and

2685
01:53:42,470 --> 01:53:41,440
recognize you know how important he is

2686
01:53:45,189 --> 01:53:42,480
and how

2687
01:53:47,430 --> 01:53:45,199
uh hollywood and the film industry which

2688
01:53:50,310 --> 01:53:47,440
is harsh

2689
01:53:52,709 --> 01:53:50,320
they respect james and and he gets us

2690
01:53:55,030 --> 01:53:52,719
headlines it's vicious

2691
01:53:57,430 --> 01:53:55,040
just said what it is it's

2692
01:53:58,470 --> 01:53:57,440
it could be sinister

2693
01:54:01,270 --> 01:53:58,480
in fact

2694
01:54:02,390 --> 01:54:01,280
but yeah yeah absolutely james is is

2695
01:54:04,470 --> 01:54:02,400
that

2696
01:54:06,870 --> 01:54:04,480
you know another one of our good friends

2697
01:54:09,350 --> 01:54:06,880
don ecker he was another man that

2698
01:54:11,189 --> 01:54:09,360
represented us on all the major news

2699
01:54:12,470 --> 01:54:11,199
outlets and networks

2700
01:54:13,270 --> 01:54:12,480
back then

2701
01:54:16,629 --> 01:54:13,280
and

2702
01:54:19,750 --> 01:54:16,639
did so with with professionalism

2703
01:54:23,189 --> 01:54:19,760
and a high level of credibility

2704
01:54:25,270 --> 01:54:23,199
you know he started ufo magazine and and

2705
01:54:27,109 --> 01:54:25,280
then he went on to be you know one of

2706
01:54:28,950 --> 01:54:27,119
their big contributors and and worked

2707
01:54:32,709 --> 01:54:28,960
for the magazine after

2708
01:54:35,910 --> 01:54:32,719
um you know after after it was uh the

2709
01:54:37,990 --> 01:54:35,920
changed hands and burns got it but you

2710
01:54:40,470 --> 01:54:38,000
know he was he was that same guy but

2711
01:54:41,510 --> 01:54:40,480
here's here's two

2712
01:54:44,149 --> 01:54:41,520
different

2713
01:54:45,270 --> 01:54:44,159
personality types

2714
01:54:48,390 --> 01:54:45,280
because

2715
01:54:51,669 --> 01:54:48,400
you know don ecker is a veteran

2716
01:54:53,589 --> 01:54:51,679
he was a former police officer detective

2717
01:54:54,790 --> 01:54:53,599
from you know from pennsylvania like

2718
01:54:58,229 --> 01:54:54,800
philadelphia

2719
01:55:00,950 --> 01:54:58,239
and and was in vietnam and then you know

2720
01:55:04,550 --> 01:55:00,960
then you've got fox who's this he's real

2721
01:55:06,470 --> 01:55:04,560
patient he's kind he's thoughtful he's

2722
01:55:08,310 --> 01:55:06,480
very considerate

2723
01:55:10,390 --> 01:55:08,320
very professional equally as

2724
01:55:14,310 --> 01:55:10,400
professional

2725
01:55:15,830 --> 01:55:14,320
and they both have contributed

2726
01:55:18,229 --> 01:55:15,840
very well

2727
01:55:20,709 --> 01:55:18,239
to the ufo subject in the ufo community

2728
01:55:21,910 --> 01:55:20,719
and still do to this very day

2729
01:55:24,629 --> 01:55:21,920
and uh

2730
01:55:27,750 --> 01:55:24,639
you know james fox though

2731
01:55:29,430 --> 01:55:27,760
the the most profound thing that he ever

2732
01:55:32,070 --> 01:55:29,440
he ever said

2733
01:55:33,910 --> 01:55:32,080
and he said it on your show what's that

2734
01:55:35,750 --> 01:55:33,920
was that he thinks that my voice gives

2735
01:55:38,070 --> 01:55:35,760
yours a run for the money yeah i know i

2736
01:55:40,550 --> 01:55:38,080
know he says it to me all the time

2737
01:55:42,070 --> 01:55:40,560
that uh that you should be the house

2738
01:55:45,109 --> 01:55:42,080
you should be the host of fade to black

2739
01:55:47,030 --> 01:55:45,119
i'll never forget that i i i he he'll

2740
01:55:48,149 --> 01:55:47,040
always be

2741
01:55:50,550 --> 01:55:48,159
um

2742
01:55:53,669 --> 01:55:50,560
at the top of my list

2743
01:55:55,109 --> 01:55:53,679
just for that and uh

2744
01:55:59,589 --> 01:55:55,119
the

2745
01:56:01,669 --> 01:55:59,599
came up a couple of times tonight with

2746
01:56:05,589 --> 01:56:01,679
james and

2747
01:56:07,750 --> 01:56:05,599
uh you know chris was in the phenomenon

2748
01:56:12,229 --> 01:56:07,760
the

2749
01:56:14,550 --> 01:56:12,239
lou said a couple of things i want to

2750
01:56:16,950 --> 01:56:14,560
get your reaction to this but one of the

2751
01:56:18,229 --> 01:56:16,960
things that he said last night

2752
01:56:20,709 --> 01:56:18,239
was that he just got back from

2753
01:56:21,990 --> 01:56:20,719
washington dc and there have been

2754
01:56:23,990 --> 01:56:22,000
incidents

2755
01:56:26,830 --> 01:56:24,000
involving tic tacs last week and the

2756
01:56:29,430 --> 01:56:26,840
week before and that this is an ongoing

2757
01:56:31,830 --> 01:56:29,440
thing uh when you heard that what you

2758
01:56:35,030 --> 01:56:31,840
what was your reaction

2759
01:56:38,070 --> 01:56:35,040
i i don't think it's ever stopped

2760
01:56:40,550 --> 01:56:38,080
and i was glad to hear him say it

2761
01:56:42,950 --> 01:56:40,560
um you know there's

2762
01:56:45,350 --> 01:56:42,960
tons more that he could have said

2763
01:56:48,229 --> 01:56:45,360
and he you know he's

2764
01:56:50,229 --> 01:56:48,239
he's handling things his way and and um

2765
01:56:51,750 --> 01:56:50,239
and i respect that

2766
01:56:54,950 --> 01:56:51,760
but honestly

2767
01:56:59,229 --> 01:56:54,960
jimmy i remember

2768
01:57:00,790 --> 01:56:59,239
looking into and investigating myself

2769
01:57:02,709 --> 01:57:00,800
tic-tac-shaped

2770
01:57:04,870 --> 01:57:02,719
ufos

2771
01:57:08,629 --> 01:57:04,880
30 years ago

2772
01:57:12,070 --> 01:57:08,639
that tic-tac-shaped ufos are nothing new

2773
01:57:14,149 --> 01:57:12,080
and that's one of the big things

2774
01:57:16,390 --> 01:57:14,159
with

2775
01:57:18,790 --> 01:57:16,400
the conversation about it being our

2776
01:57:20,709 --> 01:57:18,800
technology

2777
01:57:22,310 --> 01:57:20,719
uh

2778
01:57:24,470 --> 01:57:22,320
if

2779
01:57:27,030 --> 01:57:24,480
that

2780
01:57:28,709 --> 01:57:27,040
is our technology then we've had it 30

2781
01:57:30,550 --> 01:57:28,719
40 years

2782
01:57:33,350 --> 01:57:30,560
a minimum minimum

2783
01:57:34,709 --> 01:57:33,360
um i remember investigating a case and

2784
01:57:37,669 --> 01:57:34,719
looking into

2785
01:57:40,149 --> 01:57:37,679
researching following up and assisting

2786
01:57:41,990 --> 01:57:40,159
more uh the case than investigating it

2787
01:57:45,109 --> 01:57:42,000
but

2788
01:57:47,270 --> 01:57:45,119
it came across my desk i think it was in

2789
01:57:50,149 --> 01:57:47,280
96

2790
01:57:52,070 --> 01:57:50,159
a case that was up in the northeast and

2791
01:57:55,990 --> 01:57:52,080
um

2792
01:57:59,270 --> 01:57:56,000
a a man literally was watching uh a tic

2793
01:58:01,189 --> 01:57:59,280
tac shape he's he called it a capsule

2794
01:58:02,470 --> 01:58:01,199
like a pill capsule

2795
01:58:04,149 --> 01:58:02,480
um

2796
01:58:06,950 --> 01:58:04,159
hovering over

2797
01:58:09,270 --> 01:58:06,960
a town he was like in the sixth floor of

2798
01:58:11,030 --> 01:58:09,280
an apartment building of like a ten

2799
01:58:13,669 --> 01:58:11,040
floor apartment building

2800
01:58:17,030 --> 01:58:13,679
and he was watching it across the street

2801
01:58:19,430 --> 01:58:17,040
like maybe two streets over about 150

2802
01:58:21,750 --> 01:58:19,440
feet above some buildings

2803
01:58:24,390 --> 01:58:21,760
uh up the road up the street from his

2804
01:58:26,709 --> 01:58:24,400
house uh from his apartment building and

2805
01:58:27,750 --> 01:58:26,719
he watched it for you know four five six

2806
01:58:31,669 --> 01:58:27,760
minutes

2807
01:58:35,430 --> 01:58:31,679
and then it just slowly rose

2808
01:58:37,910 --> 01:58:35,440
you know up up vertically probably about

2809
01:58:40,390 --> 01:58:37,920
a mile and then it just shot off just

2810
01:58:42,390 --> 01:58:40,400
like someone hit it like a ping-pong

2811
01:58:44,310 --> 01:58:42,400
ball coming off a paddle you know just

2812
01:58:46,229 --> 01:58:44,320
like literally just pow and it was gone

2813
01:58:47,669 --> 01:58:46,239
like shot out of a gun

2814
01:58:48,790 --> 01:58:47,679
and

2815
01:58:51,109 --> 01:58:48,800
that

2816
01:58:53,270 --> 01:58:51,119
not only was the same shape

2817
01:58:55,750 --> 01:58:53,280
northern and and and

2818
01:58:57,510 --> 01:58:55,760
descriptively the same size

2819
01:59:00,229 --> 01:58:57,520
but it

2820
01:59:04,149 --> 01:59:00,239
operated the same way as the tic tac you

2821
01:59:06,149 --> 01:59:04,159
know very quick very fast very

2822
01:59:09,589 --> 01:59:06,159
stable platform

2823
01:59:12,870 --> 01:59:09,599
but moving on uh you know on a very very

2824
01:59:16,070 --> 01:59:12,880
advanced level and

2825
01:59:18,790 --> 01:59:16,080
i mean look at chris bledsoe

2826
01:59:21,350 --> 01:59:18,800
in his case he saw

2827
01:59:24,149 --> 01:59:21,360
what we could say was a tic-tac-shaped

2828
01:59:26,149 --> 01:59:24,159
object with spikes sticking out of it

2829
01:59:27,189 --> 01:59:26,159
yeah that's right that's

2830
01:59:31,350 --> 01:59:27,199
field

2831
01:59:35,109 --> 01:59:31,360
on this program uh three years ago uh

2832
01:59:37,350 --> 01:59:35,119
after the tic tac conversation started

2833
01:59:39,750 --> 01:59:37,360
um forget about the tic tac videos

2834
01:59:42,149 --> 01:59:39,760
because that definitively uh doesn't

2835
01:59:46,070 --> 01:59:42,159
show anything we have the descriptions

2836
01:59:49,189 --> 01:59:46,080
from the pilots that give us the tic tac

2837
01:59:52,629 --> 01:59:49,199
steve barone uh from las vegas was on

2838
01:59:55,270 --> 01:59:52,639
the show and and he sent me this video

2839
01:59:59,350 --> 01:59:55,280
of uh you know he's shooting stuff over

2840
02:00:02,310 --> 01:59:59,360
las vegas and i'm gonna man this video

2841
02:00:05,270 --> 02:00:02,320
over las vegas this is a tic tac

2842
02:00:07,830 --> 02:00:05,280
it was one of the craziest videos i had

2843
02:00:09,510 --> 02:00:07,840
ever seen of any craft

2844
02:00:12,709 --> 02:00:09,520
and and it's right there and i'm

2845
02:00:16,229 --> 02:00:12,719
thinking to myself um at that time

2846
02:00:20,149 --> 02:00:16,239
why isn't the media picking up on this

2847
02:00:23,750 --> 02:00:20,159
why isn't this video out in front

2848
02:00:25,750 --> 02:00:23,760
of uh you know cnn and new york times

2849
02:00:26,470 --> 02:00:25,760
and and fox and tucker carlson like the

2850
02:00:29,669 --> 02:00:26,480
other

2851
02:00:33,910 --> 02:00:29,679
because this definitively shows

2852
02:00:36,629 --> 02:00:33,920
uh a craft flying over las vegas

2853
02:00:39,589 --> 02:00:36,639
it's a tic tac and it's white

2854
02:00:41,830 --> 02:00:39,599
and uh moving at a high rate of speed

2855
02:00:44,149 --> 02:00:41,840
you know so it's not just over

2856
02:00:47,189 --> 02:00:44,159
the pacific or the atlantic oceans with

2857
02:00:48,470 --> 02:00:47,199
carrier fleets we've got something over

2858
02:00:51,510 --> 02:00:48,480
las vegas

2859
02:00:55,189 --> 02:00:51,520
yeah yeah well oh i can say this the

2860
02:00:58,390 --> 02:00:55,199
military component in in any story in

2861
02:01:02,950 --> 02:00:58,400
any sighting in any report and any

2862
02:01:04,070 --> 02:01:02,960
leaked anything is always paramount for

2863
02:01:05,990 --> 02:01:04,080
the major

2864
02:01:08,149 --> 02:01:06,000
mainstream news

2865
02:01:09,750 --> 02:01:08,159
they will dive all over it if they think

2866
02:01:12,310 --> 02:01:09,760
it's right that they should do so

2867
02:01:14,629 --> 02:01:12,320
regardless of what they're trying to jam

2868
02:01:16,950 --> 02:01:14,639
down our throats at any given news cycle

2869
02:01:18,950 --> 02:01:16,960
right right repetitively right right

2870
02:01:20,310 --> 02:01:18,960
just have to squeeze one in there i know

2871
02:01:21,510 --> 02:01:20,320
we're up against a break but i'll say

2872
02:01:23,830 --> 02:01:21,520
this

2873
02:01:25,589 --> 02:01:23,840
i just really hope that the listeners

2874
02:01:27,270 --> 02:01:25,599
out there and the people that have an

2875
02:01:29,510 --> 02:01:27,280
interest in this subject and man there's

2876
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a lot of really critical thinkers that

2877
02:01:33,270 --> 02:01:31,040
follow your show

2878
02:01:34,870 --> 02:01:33,280
and follow us on the new mainstream over

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dx

2880
02:01:40,390 --> 02:01:37,920
listen if you find yourself waiting

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02:01:42,629 --> 02:01:40,400
around for the government to give you

2882
02:01:44,310 --> 02:01:42,639
the answer

2883
02:01:46,870 --> 02:01:44,320
you're not going to catch any fish

2884
02:01:48,950 --> 02:01:46,880
that's what i'm saying

2885
02:01:51,189 --> 02:01:48,960
let's take our break right here this is

2886
02:01:53,830 --> 02:01:51,199
fade to black race hobbs

2887
02:01:55,430 --> 02:01:53,840
post game wrap-up show with race hobbs

2888
02:01:57,030 --> 02:01:55,440
i'm your host jimmy church this is fade

2889
02:02:04,020 --> 02:01:57,040
to blackmore with race after this short

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2943
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or running across the floor

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they're unhealthy gross and disgusting

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found something that is tougher than

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2991
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this is fade to black with jimmy church

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2994
02:07:06,870 --> 02:07:05,520
all right welcome back fate to black how

2995
02:07:09,270 --> 02:07:06,880
many other super chairs

2996
02:07:12,950 --> 02:07:09,280
very special thanks to james fox coming

2997
02:07:14,390 --> 02:07:12,960
in in a very busy schedule his life is

2998
02:07:16,390 --> 02:07:14,400
crazy right now but he's getting this

2999
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3000
02:07:20,149 --> 02:07:18,960
is now been revealed it is called moment

3001
02:07:22,390 --> 02:07:20,159
of contact

3002
02:07:24,870 --> 02:07:22,400
and uh we've got race hobbs in here with

3003
02:07:26,069 --> 02:07:24,880
this a little post game wrap up and and

3004
02:07:28,790 --> 02:07:26,079
race uh

3005
02:07:30,629 --> 02:07:28,800
i'm over in the chat during the break

3006
02:07:32,390 --> 02:07:30,639
and and i love the fader knots and i

3007
02:07:34,960 --> 02:07:32,400
love that chat room but that chat room

3008
02:07:38,550 --> 02:07:34,970
is always about weed and guitars

3009
02:07:41,109 --> 02:07:38,560
[Laughter]

3010
02:07:46,629 --> 02:07:44,149
weed and guitars man weed and guitars i

3011
02:07:47,510 --> 02:07:46,639
love it you know i i when i started this

3012
02:07:50,629 --> 02:07:47,520
show

3013
02:07:52,709 --> 02:07:50,639
uh i didn't really talk about weed but

3014
02:07:54,870 --> 02:07:52,719
the thing is

3015
02:07:56,470 --> 02:07:54,880
is that and i've got a panama tattoo

3016
02:07:58,709 --> 02:07:56,480
right here that says

3017
02:08:00,950 --> 02:07:58,719
uh when i talk about weed i've got i've

3018
02:08:03,510 --> 02:08:00,960
got uh the background there but here's

3019
02:08:05,669 --> 02:08:03,520
the deal oh see race has shown me his

3020
02:08:07,430 --> 02:08:05,679
tattoo and it's a bong

3021
02:08:09,990 --> 02:08:07,440
that's a giant bomb you get that in

3022
02:08:11,109 --> 02:08:10,000
college so so anyway

3023
02:08:12,950 --> 02:08:11,119
um

3024
02:08:15,189 --> 02:08:12,960
you know talk about music ufos

3025
02:08:17,589 --> 02:08:15,199
conspiracy time travel you know music

3026
02:08:19,669 --> 02:08:17,599
guitars food all that stuff

3027
02:08:22,149 --> 02:08:19,679
and that hopefully

3028
02:08:25,189 --> 02:08:22,159
i would just surround myself with an

3029
02:08:27,270 --> 02:08:25,199
audience that gets what i'm about well

3030
02:08:28,870 --> 02:08:27,280
be careful what you ask for because now

3031
02:08:31,109 --> 02:08:28,880
it's all weed and guitars in the chat

3032
02:08:33,109 --> 02:08:31,119
room that's it speaking of chat room

3033
02:08:35,510 --> 02:08:33,119
want to say hi to deb

3034
02:08:39,109 --> 02:08:35,520
lemon pop you've got a voice message

3035
02:08:40,870 --> 02:08:39,119
coming i i'm way behind but um

3036
02:08:43,669 --> 02:08:40,880
i love you okay

3037
02:08:45,669 --> 02:08:43,679
so she she is she is a true

3038
02:08:48,310 --> 02:08:45,679
a true sister that's that's

3039
02:08:51,030 --> 02:08:48,320
in the same lane i'm in and one of my

3040
02:08:52,550 --> 02:08:51,040
biggest i'm a big big big fan of her

3041
02:08:55,350 --> 02:08:52,560
i'll just say that yeah right on right

3042
02:08:57,030 --> 02:08:55,360
on so nitrogen or notch jimmy love the

3043
02:08:58,550 --> 02:08:57,040
failure better knots are the best and

3044
02:09:01,350 --> 02:08:58,560
race so

3045
02:09:05,109 --> 02:09:01,360
nitrous wanted to see

3046
02:09:05,990 --> 02:09:05,119
the the 74 strat which is here grab it

3047
02:09:08,229 --> 02:09:06,000
and

3048
02:09:10,149 --> 02:09:08,239
but here's the deal i'm just gonna say

3049
02:09:13,189 --> 02:09:10,159
this with this guitar

3050
02:09:15,750 --> 02:09:13,199
um as in all of my guitars

3051
02:09:17,589 --> 02:09:15,760
um you can't see it here folks but i

3052
02:09:20,550 --> 02:09:17,599
have a workbench

3053
02:09:22,550 --> 02:09:20,560
over on the other side of the studio um

3054
02:09:25,270 --> 02:09:22,560
it literally set up

3055
02:09:27,030 --> 02:09:25,280
and so i i can pull the guitar down i've

3056
02:09:30,550 --> 02:09:27,040
got all the tools i've got all the

3057
02:09:32,790 --> 02:09:30,560
guitar luthier uh stuff

3058
02:09:34,229 --> 02:09:32,800
um that i can work on my guitars and i

3059
02:09:36,229 --> 02:09:34,239
do it all the time

3060
02:09:38,790 --> 02:09:36,239
so this guitar

3061
02:09:39,750 --> 02:09:38,800
is uh heavily modified

3062
02:09:43,189 --> 02:09:39,760
and

3063
02:09:45,910 --> 02:09:43,199
guitars so i'm just gonna say this here

3064
02:09:48,069 --> 02:09:45,920
it is right okay so on the surface it's

3065
02:09:50,709 --> 02:09:48,079
like okay right all right

3066
02:09:52,069 --> 02:09:50,719
but it's not so a couple of things if

3067
02:09:53,830 --> 02:09:52,079
you look here

3068
02:09:56,790 --> 02:09:53,840
right here in this slot

3069
02:09:59,350 --> 02:09:56,800
it's got a shim in there i shim every

3070
02:10:02,069 --> 02:09:59,360
neck on every bolt-on guitar that i have

3071
02:10:05,109 --> 02:10:02,079
to tilt the neck up because i need to

3072
02:10:07,270 --> 02:10:05,119
have everything raised off of the body

3073
02:10:09,669 --> 02:10:07,280
so it starts there it's it's been

3074
02:10:12,870 --> 02:10:09,679
shimmed um

3075
02:10:15,669 --> 02:10:12,880
it's always in adjustment and these

3076
02:10:17,750 --> 02:10:15,679
frets were just polished but this guitar

3077
02:10:21,430 --> 02:10:17,760
um all the pots have been replaced and

3078
02:10:24,870 --> 02:10:21,440
these are ingva yjm pickups

3079
02:10:26,629 --> 02:10:24,880
and and then i take the yjm covers off

3080
02:10:29,030 --> 02:10:26,639
that say yjm

3081
02:10:32,229 --> 02:10:29,040
and i put the stock fender covers back

3082
02:10:36,390 --> 02:10:32,239
on so i can run in stealth mode but this

3083
02:10:39,430 --> 02:10:36,400
guitar is heavily modified and uh the

3084
02:10:41,270 --> 02:10:39,440
tremolo is set up to float

3085
02:10:42,790 --> 02:10:41,280
and and that's what you have here so

3086
02:10:46,550 --> 02:10:42,800
this isn't your

3087
02:10:50,709 --> 02:10:46,560
your stock guitar and and

3088
02:10:57,910 --> 02:10:53,910
i uh i do that with every guitar here

3089
02:11:00,310 --> 02:10:57,920
every guitar is shimmed uh polished i i

3090
02:11:01,910 --> 02:11:00,320
changed the pots out change the pickups

3091
02:11:05,030 --> 02:11:01,920
and

3092
02:11:07,270 --> 02:11:05,040
do all that stuff so nitrous that's what

3093
02:11:09,669 --> 02:11:07,280
that guitar is that's just a good

3094
02:11:13,589 --> 02:11:09,679
looking that's a good looking

3095
02:11:14,870 --> 02:11:13,599
expanded plays so nice well one of these

3096
02:11:16,950 --> 02:11:14,880
days

3097
02:11:19,270 --> 02:11:16,960
uh not in your lifetime

3098
02:11:20,470 --> 02:11:19,280
no it's going to be in my lifetime don't

3099
02:11:27,750 --> 02:11:20,480
make me

3100
02:11:33,830 --> 02:11:30,790
it's so funny um what i do here i want

3101
02:11:35,750 --> 02:11:33,840
to get back to ufos but like if i walk

3102
02:11:42,229 --> 02:11:35,760
over here it's like this

3103
02:11:47,109 --> 02:11:44,709
this i'm just grabbing this just just

3104
02:11:49,750 --> 02:11:47,119
off of the shelf but

3105
02:11:52,550 --> 02:11:49,760
i've got boxes of pickups

3106
02:11:55,350 --> 02:11:52,560
just sitting there and and and i i've

3107
02:11:58,229 --> 02:11:55,360
and loads and i'm just always i've got

3108
02:12:02,390 --> 02:11:58,239
my soldering iron base station i've got

3109
02:12:05,350 --> 02:12:02,400
the power tools and and peg winders and

3110
02:12:06,709 --> 02:12:05,360
that that the bench that had

3111
02:12:09,589 --> 02:12:06,719
that like

3112
02:12:11,830 --> 02:12:09,599
stuff was moving under yeah yeah yeah

3113
02:12:13,189 --> 02:12:11,840
yeah yeah yeah yeah okay yeah i remember

3114
02:12:14,790 --> 02:12:13,199
seeing it so

3115
02:12:17,189 --> 02:12:14,800
i don't know what it looks like now i'm

3116
02:12:18,470 --> 02:12:17,199
always changing stuff well if i move the

3117
02:12:23,189 --> 02:12:18,480
camera

3118
02:12:24,870 --> 02:12:23,199
bolted down yeah i can't move that

3119
02:12:27,669 --> 02:12:24,880
particular camera

3120
02:12:29,109 --> 02:12:27,679
um it's uh it's stationary so i can't

3121
02:12:32,149 --> 02:12:29,119
even show

3122
02:12:35,750 --> 02:12:32,159
uh the area but but that that's what i'm

3123
02:12:38,310 --> 02:12:35,760
i'm always pulling stuff down

3124
02:12:42,950 --> 02:12:38,320
and uh like this randy rhodes guitar

3125
02:12:44,310 --> 02:12:42,960
that just you know and when i say shim

3126
02:12:50,390 --> 02:12:44,320
uh

3127
02:12:53,589 --> 02:12:52,629
i'm telling you man i got i got spare

3128
02:12:56,709 --> 02:12:53,599
parts

3129
02:13:00,709 --> 02:12:56,719
this is a shim that's a neck shim

3130
02:13:02,629 --> 02:13:00,719
okay and this one is a a half a degree

3131
02:13:05,189 --> 02:13:02,639
so it's got a little slant to it it's a

3132
02:13:07,510 --> 02:13:05,199
half a degree shim and this goes between

3133
02:13:09,669 --> 02:13:07,520
the neck and the body and it tilts the

3134
02:13:11,350 --> 02:13:09,679
neck but you got to have these in stock

3135
02:13:18,709 --> 02:13:11,360
i got parts

3136
02:13:20,870 --> 02:13:18,719
stuff

3137
02:13:22,470 --> 02:13:20,880
and uh i'm always in motion uh when it

3138
02:13:23,830 --> 02:13:22,480
comes to guitars and i've got a feeling

3139
02:13:25,270 --> 02:13:23,840
that you've been that way since you were

3140
02:13:27,109 --> 02:13:25,280
a kid yeah

3141
02:13:28,709 --> 02:13:27,119
yeah yeah yeah yeah there's lots of

3142
02:13:30,470 --> 02:13:28,719
pictures of me

3143
02:13:33,030 --> 02:13:30,480
uh out there when i was a kid with these

3144
02:13:35,830 --> 02:13:33,040
parts guitars these strats that

3145
02:13:39,030 --> 02:13:35,840
i just figured it out

3146
02:13:41,189 --> 02:13:39,040
you know how i can hear your father

3147
02:13:42,790 --> 02:13:41,199
raising hell because you've got all his

3148
02:13:45,350 --> 02:13:42,800
tools somewhere

3149
02:13:46,470 --> 02:13:45,360
man man and he was uh he's no longer

3150
02:13:47,589 --> 02:13:46,480
with us but

3151
02:13:51,350 --> 02:13:47,599
he uh

3152
02:13:53,589 --> 02:13:51,360
i remember one day um he goes ah

3153
02:13:56,390 --> 02:13:53,599
let's build a guitar

3154
02:13:57,430 --> 02:13:56,400
and but but but hold on i put the brakes

3155
02:14:00,550 --> 02:13:57,440
on it

3156
02:14:02,069 --> 02:14:00,560
and the reason was behind i didn't want

3157
02:14:04,229 --> 02:14:02,079
to have

3158
02:14:06,069 --> 02:14:04,239
uh first it's not easy to build a guitar

3159
02:14:07,350 --> 02:14:06,079
but i didn't want to have some reeky

3160
02:14:09,830 --> 02:14:07,360
dink

3161
02:14:11,589 --> 02:14:09,840
home built looking guitar

3162
02:14:13,189 --> 02:14:11,599
you know i didn't i did i just didn't

3163
02:14:15,990 --> 02:14:13,199
want to go down that road and we never

3164
02:14:18,229 --> 02:14:16,000
did and it was just out of fear

3165
02:14:19,910 --> 02:14:18,239
that that i'd present something to my

3166
02:14:22,390 --> 02:14:19,920
friends and they would go man yeah that

3167
02:14:25,030 --> 02:14:22,400
looks like you made it so

3168
02:14:27,669 --> 02:14:25,040
we never did but he wanted to

3169
02:14:29,270 --> 02:14:27,679
and now now of course you know i regret

3170
02:14:30,470 --> 02:14:29,280
it we should have uh we should have done

3171
02:14:31,750 --> 02:14:30,480
something

3172
02:14:34,069 --> 02:14:31,760
but

3173
02:14:36,790 --> 02:14:34,079
how do we see this is the chat room this

3174
02:14:40,550 --> 02:14:36,800
is what the chat room forces us to do

3175
02:14:43,430 --> 02:14:40,560
is talk about weed and guitars well you

3176
02:14:45,510 --> 02:14:43,440
know the chat room represents a very

3177
02:14:47,189 --> 02:14:45,520
small percentage of your viewers and

3178
02:14:49,750 --> 02:14:47,199
your overall listeners

3179
02:14:51,510 --> 02:14:49,760
but you know they're they're vitally

3180
02:14:54,390 --> 02:14:51,520
important they're the ones that take the

3181
02:14:57,030 --> 02:14:54,400
time or have the ability to come hang

3182
02:14:59,830 --> 02:14:57,040
out and interact and and they're special

3183
02:15:01,750 --> 02:14:59,840
faders for sure yeah and and

3184
02:15:03,270 --> 02:15:01,760
staying on the subject for a second so

3185
02:15:05,109 --> 02:15:03,280
james fox

3186
02:15:07,109 --> 02:15:05,119
earlier today

3187
02:15:09,109 --> 02:15:07,119
uh we're we're getting things set up and

3188
02:15:14,629 --> 02:15:09,119
we're talking for a while

3189
02:15:17,350 --> 02:15:15,830
hey man

3190
02:15:22,870 --> 02:15:17,360
um

3191
02:15:25,350 --> 02:15:22,880
cool

3192
02:15:27,750 --> 02:15:25,360
yeah man i i i used to have a guitar oh

3193
02:15:30,950 --> 02:15:27,760
did you yeah

3194
02:15:32,870 --> 02:15:30,960
and uh then i grew up and uh and i got

3195
02:15:37,109 --> 02:15:32,880
away from it and i'm not cool anymore

3196
02:15:39,430 --> 02:15:37,119
i'm like dude go get a guitar it's a you

3197
02:15:41,910 --> 02:15:39,440
you know it's never too late go and be

3198
02:15:45,109 --> 02:15:41,920
cool again

3199
02:15:47,510 --> 02:15:45,119
and honestly there's you know if

3200
02:15:50,550 --> 02:15:47,520
you remember lee spiegel right so lee

3201
02:15:52,870 --> 02:15:50,560
spiegel one time uh we're talking it's a

3202
02:15:54,870 --> 02:15:52,880
couple of years ago and he literally

3203
02:15:56,310 --> 02:15:54,880
says i hope he's listening right now lee

3204
02:15:59,030 --> 02:15:56,320
goes hey man i

3205
02:16:00,790 --> 02:15:59,040
i used to be cool i said oh really yeah

3206
02:16:02,830 --> 02:16:00,800
yeah man i used to play guitar in the

3207
02:16:05,910 --> 02:16:02,840
east village man i played full

3208
02:16:07,350 --> 02:16:05,920
guitar oh sure you did no

3209
02:16:08,390 --> 02:16:07,360
yeah yeah and so he's sending me

3210
02:16:10,790 --> 02:16:08,400
pictures

3211
02:16:12,950 --> 02:16:10,800
you know and uh see see i used to be

3212
02:16:13,910 --> 02:16:12,960
cool i guess you did lee

3213
02:16:15,589 --> 02:16:13,920
i guess

3214
02:16:17,669 --> 02:16:15,599
that's how he got to new york yeah

3215
02:16:19,750 --> 02:16:17,679
that's how he got to new york

3216
02:16:21,910 --> 02:16:19,760
yeah he was going there to

3217
02:16:24,950 --> 02:16:21,920
to strike it rich to make it big you

3218
02:16:27,910 --> 02:16:24,960
know but his you know his father helped

3219
02:16:30,310 --> 02:16:27,920
him get the best acoustic you could get

3220
02:16:34,070 --> 02:16:30,320
yeah he had a martin 12 string a martin

3221
02:16:36,070 --> 02:16:34,080
12 string and uh back then

3222
02:16:38,070 --> 02:16:36,080
horribly expensive

3223
02:16:39,669 --> 02:16:38,080
and even more expensive today what's

3224
02:16:43,349 --> 02:16:39,679
that

3225
02:16:45,429 --> 02:16:43,359
it's the cover to my new klipsch studio

3226
02:16:47,030 --> 02:16:45,439
monitors in the studio oh you had to

3227
02:16:49,190 --> 02:16:47,040
take them off so you can

3228
02:16:51,429 --> 02:16:49,200
hear the high fidelity

3229
02:16:53,190 --> 02:16:51,439
well

3230
02:16:59,349 --> 02:16:53,200
it's

3231
02:17:01,429 --> 02:16:59,359
that you know klitsch was born and and

3232
02:17:03,669 --> 02:17:01,439
originated from here so

3233
02:17:05,270 --> 02:17:03,679
i'm a super big fan of clips products

3234
02:17:08,709 --> 02:17:05,280
and when i found

3235
02:17:09,990 --> 02:17:08,719
these monitors and and i ordered them

3236
02:17:15,750 --> 02:17:10,000
i

3237
02:17:18,309 --> 02:17:15,760
used you know

3238
02:17:20,549 --> 02:17:18,319
jbl's and

3239
02:17:22,790 --> 02:17:20,559
the the standard yeah the standard stuff

3240
02:17:24,629 --> 02:17:22,800
for studios yeah

3241
02:17:27,750 --> 02:17:24,639
but you know

3242
02:17:30,070 --> 02:17:27,760
klipsch has always primarily been home

3243
02:17:31,750 --> 02:17:30,080
audio you know and uh

3244
02:17:35,669 --> 02:17:31,760
and car audio so

3245
02:17:38,870 --> 02:17:35,679
i was really really really excited

3246
02:17:40,870 --> 02:17:38,880
to uh to get these and how excited are

3247
02:17:43,509 --> 02:17:40,880
you race that you're talking about this

3248
02:17:46,709 --> 02:17:43,519
now how excited are you

3249
02:17:49,509 --> 02:17:46,719
well you know i it's it's almost as

3250
02:17:52,870 --> 02:17:49,519
exciting as getting to be

3251
02:17:55,830 --> 02:17:52,880
on jimmy church and fade to black live i

3252
02:17:59,669 --> 02:17:55,840
use i use task right after that i'll be

3253
02:18:01,589 --> 02:17:59,679
firing these some up and and and

3254
02:18:04,629 --> 02:18:01,599
rattling the windows out

3255
02:18:07,429 --> 02:18:04,639
as soon as i get done now um i want to

3256
02:18:08,389 --> 02:18:07,439
guys you just reminded me of something

3257
02:18:10,629 --> 02:18:08,399
um

3258
02:18:13,429 --> 02:18:10,639
uh believe it or not

3259
02:18:16,150 --> 02:18:13,439
yesterday lou

3260
02:18:19,910 --> 02:18:16,160
left another clue on the table now i

3261
02:18:20,950 --> 02:18:19,920
went back adam about this uh quite a bit

3262
02:18:22,389 --> 02:18:20,960
but

3263
02:18:24,230 --> 02:18:22,399
the conversation has been about the

3264
02:18:26,709 --> 02:18:24,240
united states navy united states navy

3265
02:18:28,629 --> 02:18:26,719
susan gao there's a prescott the

3266
02:18:31,190 --> 02:18:28,639
pentagon the united states navy they

3267
02:18:33,990 --> 02:18:31,200
fravor i get i get all of that i

3268
02:18:36,230 --> 02:18:34,000
understand it right okay

3269
02:18:39,589 --> 02:18:36,240
but he said yesterday on the show

3270
02:18:43,990 --> 02:18:39,599
that he just got back from washington dc

3271
02:18:45,349 --> 02:18:44,000
and other branches of the military

3272
02:18:47,349 --> 02:18:45,359
are now

3273
02:18:48,389 --> 02:18:47,359
presenting reports

3274
02:18:53,110 --> 02:18:48,399
and

3275
02:18:55,110 --> 02:18:53,120
other branches are you got the united

3276
02:18:57,429 --> 02:18:55,120
states navy but you got the air force

3277
02:19:00,309 --> 02:18:57,439
the army the marines

3278
02:19:03,190 --> 02:19:00,319
and uh the coast guard

3279
02:19:06,469 --> 02:19:03,200
so what are we talking about here and

3280
02:19:08,709 --> 02:19:06,479
and his response well other branches

3281
02:19:10,790 --> 02:19:08,719
what did you make of that i thought that

3282
02:19:13,429 --> 02:19:10,800
that was a pretty big reveal

3283
02:19:16,709 --> 02:19:13,439
well you know

3284
02:19:18,790 --> 02:19:16,719
after reading mellon's article

3285
02:19:21,509 --> 02:19:18,800
where the uf you know the air force is

3286
02:19:23,589 --> 02:19:21,519
null out there it's nice to see that you

3287
02:19:26,469 --> 02:19:23,599
know they're kicking in if that's the

3288
02:19:28,870 --> 02:19:26,479
case but what no no no wait a minute

3289
02:19:30,709 --> 02:19:28,880
wait a minute that's a really good point

3290
02:19:35,030 --> 02:19:30,719
so if we're looking at the other

3291
02:19:36,389 --> 02:19:35,040
branches right navy air force army

3292
02:19:38,309 --> 02:19:36,399
marines

3293
02:19:40,469 --> 02:19:38,319
coast guard but we're taking navy off

3294
02:19:43,030 --> 02:19:40,479
the table taking the air force off the

3295
02:19:46,309 --> 02:19:43,040
table so that means we've got the army

3296
02:19:50,230 --> 02:19:46,319
and the marines and the coast guard left

3297
02:19:53,110 --> 02:19:50,240
that's pretty interesting right

3298
02:19:56,870 --> 02:19:54,469
i've

3299
02:20:02,790 --> 02:19:56,880
i go

3300
02:20:06,790 --> 02:20:02,800
that i trusted explicitly and that was

3301
02:20:06,800 --> 02:20:10,070
philip corso

3302
02:20:15,590 --> 02:20:12,309
and uh

3303
02:20:18,389 --> 02:20:15,600
and stone these guys were army

3304
02:20:19,349 --> 02:20:18,399
they were career army

3305
02:20:22,950 --> 02:20:19,359
and

3306
02:20:26,070 --> 02:20:22,960
evidence

3307
02:20:29,590 --> 02:20:26,080
that you can hold in your hand

3308
02:20:33,750 --> 02:20:29,600
that shows accounts that were reported

3309
02:20:35,030 --> 02:20:33,760
by army personnel to army hierarchy and

3310
02:20:37,590 --> 02:20:35,040
and

3311
02:20:38,790 --> 02:20:37,600
that goes back before vietnam

3312
02:20:42,230 --> 02:20:38,800
and

3313
02:20:44,710 --> 02:20:42,240
so i've got to believe that the army

3314
02:20:47,830 --> 02:20:44,720
is throat deep

3315
02:20:49,670 --> 02:20:47,840
in the ufo subject they're the boots on

3316
02:20:51,750 --> 02:20:49,680
the ground

3317
02:20:54,070 --> 02:20:51,760
and um

3318
02:20:55,830 --> 02:20:54,080
a lot of them have gone up to work at

3319
02:20:58,550 --> 02:20:55,840
the nro

3320
02:21:01,190 --> 02:20:58,560
and other three-letter agencies

3321
02:21:02,469 --> 02:21:01,200
after their careers in in army and army

3322
02:21:03,349 --> 02:21:02,479
r d

3323
02:21:05,910 --> 02:21:03,359
um

3324
02:21:07,110 --> 02:21:05,920
i think that that the army quite

3325
02:21:09,750 --> 02:21:07,120
possibly

3326
02:21:10,710 --> 02:21:09,760
with probably the lowest budget out of

3327
02:21:12,950 --> 02:21:10,720
all

3328
02:21:14,469 --> 02:21:12,960
of the military branches

3329
02:21:16,230 --> 02:21:14,479
uh

3330
02:21:18,870 --> 02:21:16,240
could be the ones that

3331
02:21:20,870 --> 02:21:18,880
have their hands on the golden goose

3332
02:21:22,309 --> 02:21:20,880
and i think that

3333
02:21:25,270 --> 02:21:22,319
we um

3334
02:21:28,309 --> 02:21:25,280
uh you know the redheaded stepchild in

3335
02:21:31,270 --> 02:21:28,319
in the pentagon is is the coast guard

3336
02:21:34,150 --> 02:21:31,280
and if we you know go back to the space

3337
02:21:36,389 --> 02:21:34,160
force you know the the comedy series

3338
02:21:38,230 --> 02:21:36,399
um which by the way i think season two

3339
02:21:40,550 --> 02:21:38,240
is about to release it's about to drop i

3340
02:21:42,469 --> 02:21:40,560
can't wait for that but it was funny the

3341
02:21:43,990 --> 02:21:42,479
jokes that were put at the coast guard

3342
02:21:47,270 --> 02:21:44,000
that they weren't even supposed to be at

3343
02:21:48,870 --> 02:21:47,280
the meetings um but they they are on our

3344
02:21:50,150 --> 02:21:48,880
coast that's what they're they're out

3345
02:21:53,910 --> 02:21:50,160
there doing

3346
02:21:56,710 --> 02:21:53,920
and they must be seeing the same thing

3347
02:21:58,790 --> 02:21:56,720
that that the navy's been reporting on

3348
02:22:00,070 --> 02:21:58,800
and wouldn't it be interesting that the

3349
02:22:01,030 --> 02:22:00,080
coast guard

3350
02:22:09,750 --> 02:22:01,040
is

3351
02:22:13,110 --> 02:22:09,760
department of defense and odni

3352
02:22:16,070 --> 02:22:13,120
man you know all of those agencies

3353
02:22:18,469 --> 02:22:16,080
have protocols on the path that

3354
02:22:19,349 --> 02:22:18,479
intelligence takes

3355
02:22:21,030 --> 02:22:19,359
and

3356
02:22:24,309 --> 02:22:21,040
you know i was talking to a friend of

3357
02:22:25,990 --> 02:22:24,319
mine earlier today in fact where i was

3358
02:22:28,070 --> 02:22:26,000
questioning

3359
02:22:29,349 --> 02:22:28,080
another army official

3360
02:22:31,910 --> 02:22:29,359
and that was

3361
02:22:33,429 --> 02:22:31,920
jesse marcel

3362
02:22:34,830 --> 02:22:33,439
and what

3363
02:22:36,389 --> 02:22:34,840
would

3364
02:22:39,990 --> 02:22:36,399
a

3365
02:22:43,349 --> 02:22:40,000
out in the middle of the desert no

3366
02:22:45,270 --> 02:22:43,359
middle of nowhere why would they need

3367
02:22:47,990 --> 02:22:45,280
and i'm doing air quotes here

3368
02:22:52,550 --> 02:22:48,000
intelligence officer

3369
02:22:54,070 --> 02:22:52,560
what was he what was what was his job

3370
02:22:55,270 --> 02:22:54,080
before

3371
02:22:59,590 --> 02:22:55,280
and

3372
02:23:01,110 --> 02:22:59,600
this incident in corona

3373
02:23:02,469 --> 02:23:01,120
and um

3374
02:23:05,110 --> 02:23:02,479
you know it

3375
02:23:07,830 --> 02:23:05,120
base intelligence officers are a common

3376
02:23:10,950 --> 02:23:07,840
thing all over bases now

3377
02:23:12,710 --> 02:23:10,960
but it was a different world back then

3378
02:23:20,150 --> 02:23:12,720
and

3379
02:23:22,550 --> 02:23:20,160
being developed out of that time

3380
02:23:25,750 --> 02:23:22,560
we didn't really have spy craft in the

3381
02:23:27,190 --> 02:23:25,760
united states much in the way before

3382
02:23:30,469 --> 02:23:27,200
world war ii

3383
02:23:31,349 --> 02:23:30,479
i mean it's just the reality of it and

3384
02:23:32,950 --> 02:23:31,359
um

3385
02:23:37,110 --> 02:23:32,960
so

3386
02:23:39,910 --> 02:23:37,120
i i gotta think that the coast guard

3387
02:23:43,190 --> 02:23:41,510
the air force

3388
02:23:44,550 --> 02:23:43,200
and the navy

3389
02:23:47,429 --> 02:23:44,560
and the marines

3390
02:23:49,670 --> 02:23:47,439
they all send this information up the

3391
02:23:52,230 --> 02:23:49,680
ladder somewhere

3392
02:23:55,030 --> 02:23:52,240
on a one-way train

3393
02:23:58,710 --> 02:23:55,040
that never comes back

3394
02:24:04,389 --> 02:24:00,870
that you could track

3395
02:24:06,790 --> 02:24:04,399
where all that stuff goes

3396
02:24:08,309 --> 02:24:06,800
because it's all going somewhere yeah

3397
02:24:10,070 --> 02:24:08,319
it's interesting

3398
02:24:11,270 --> 02:24:10,080
and uh if there was some way to track

3399
02:24:14,630 --> 02:24:11,280
that

3400
02:24:17,270 --> 02:24:14,640
then then you might be able to start

3401
02:24:20,309 --> 02:24:17,280
knocking on the doors with the right

3402
02:24:22,870 --> 02:24:20,319
questions submitting the right verbage

3403
02:24:25,270 --> 02:24:22,880
the right right wording to be able to

3404
02:24:28,790 --> 02:24:25,280
get a little deeper into what they know

3405
02:24:30,469 --> 02:24:28,800
but the fact is that we're i don't feel

3406
02:24:32,950 --> 02:24:30,479
i don't have any confidence jimmy that

3407
02:24:35,030 --> 02:24:32,960
we're ever gonna get to that place when

3408
02:24:37,830 --> 02:24:35,040
you watch gordon cooper

3409
02:24:39,670 --> 02:24:37,840
you know when when when

3410
02:24:41,750 --> 02:24:39,680
james fox asked him you know he's like

3411
02:24:43,030 --> 02:24:41,760
you know did you ever check up on this

3412
02:24:44,309 --> 02:24:43,040
you know he's like who are you going to

3413
02:24:46,790 --> 02:24:44,319
ask

3414
02:24:50,150 --> 02:24:46,800
who are you going to talk to

3415
02:24:52,309 --> 02:24:50,160
once that pouch left my hands right and

3416
02:24:55,190 --> 02:24:52,319
that colonel courier hauled it off to

3417
02:24:57,510 --> 02:24:55,200
the blue sky the blue yonder i never saw

3418
02:24:58,550 --> 02:24:57,520
or heard of it again

3419
02:25:00,469 --> 02:24:58,560
um

3420
02:25:02,230 --> 02:25:00,479
you know when when

3421
02:25:05,190 --> 02:25:02,240
i've talked to

3422
02:25:07,590 --> 02:25:05,200
naval submarine commanders

3423
02:25:10,550 --> 02:25:07,600
that have fast movers you know

3424
02:25:13,190 --> 02:25:10,560
underwater that are exhibiting speeds

3425
02:25:16,550 --> 02:25:13,200
that just don't

3426
02:25:20,389 --> 02:25:16,560
they don't jive with our known laws of

3427
02:25:25,349 --> 02:25:20,399
physics or our technological level

3428
02:25:28,150 --> 02:25:25,359
of of movement in that medium and all

3429
02:25:30,630 --> 02:25:28,160
they do is they send it up the ladder

3430
02:25:32,389 --> 02:25:30,640
if it's not an immediate threat if it

3431
02:25:34,630 --> 02:25:32,399
was just an object that was tracked that

3432
02:25:37,270 --> 02:25:34,640
passed by them and kept going it's not a

3433
02:25:39,910 --> 02:25:37,280
threat it goes right up the ladder and

3434
02:25:41,910 --> 02:25:39,920
there it stays it never comes back

3435
02:25:44,710 --> 02:25:41,920
there's never

3436
02:25:46,469 --> 02:25:44,720
a think tank of brains up there that

3437
02:25:49,429 --> 02:25:46,479
take this information they collect it

3438
02:25:51,830 --> 02:25:49,439
all up they consider it they do the math

3439
02:25:53,270 --> 02:25:51,840
whatever and then there's an answer or a

3440
02:25:55,590 --> 02:25:53,280
solution or

3441
02:25:57,270 --> 02:25:55,600
a recommendation or anything that comes

3442
02:26:00,790 --> 02:25:57,280
back down the line

3443
02:26:02,790 --> 02:26:00,800
and so somewhere

3444
02:26:04,830 --> 02:26:02,800
sometime

3445
02:26:07,910 --> 02:26:04,840
in the in the

3446
02:26:09,349 --> 02:26:07,920
future if we don't wipe ourselves out

3447
02:26:11,990 --> 02:26:09,359
before then

3448
02:26:13,750 --> 02:26:12,000
i've got to believe that

3449
02:26:16,309 --> 02:26:13,760
there's going to be a museum somewhere

3450
02:26:19,190 --> 02:26:16,319
with all of that in it well here

3451
02:26:20,550 --> 02:26:19,200
and those people are going to be

3452
02:26:21,750 --> 02:26:20,560
those people are going to have their

3453
02:26:24,070 --> 02:26:21,760
hands full

3454
02:26:26,550 --> 02:26:24,080
with all of that but

3455
02:26:28,309 --> 02:26:26,560
i think the most important

3456
02:26:30,230 --> 02:26:28,319
question to ask

3457
02:26:32,070 --> 02:26:30,240
hasn't been

3458
02:26:37,270 --> 02:26:32,080
which is this

3459
02:26:39,830 --> 02:26:37,280
if you are a rear admiral of you know

3460
02:26:43,030 --> 02:26:39,840
a carrier strike group like the nimitz

3461
02:26:45,510 --> 02:26:43,040
and that incident goes down

3462
02:26:47,110 --> 02:26:45,520
that is written up

3463
02:26:48,870 --> 02:26:47,120
and handed off

3464
02:26:51,990 --> 02:26:48,880
who did

3465
02:26:53,030 --> 02:26:52,000
that get handed off to

3466
02:26:56,150 --> 02:26:53,040
right

3467
02:26:57,110 --> 02:26:56,160
nobody is asking that question where is

3468
02:27:00,630 --> 02:26:57,120
it

3469
02:27:02,230 --> 02:27:00,640
where that there is no way and here is

3470
02:27:03,190 --> 02:27:02,240
if i'm the president of the united

3471
02:27:05,190 --> 02:27:03,200
states

3472
02:27:07,670 --> 02:27:05,200
and i find out

3473
02:27:10,150 --> 02:27:07,680
that an incident like that happened and

3474
02:27:12,950 --> 02:27:10,160
i wasn't told about it

3475
02:27:15,670 --> 02:27:12,960
i am going to be a little bit angry and

3476
02:27:19,349 --> 02:27:15,680
nobody has raised this issue

3477
02:27:21,429 --> 02:27:19,359
nobody so this comes out in 2017

3478
02:27:22,630 --> 02:27:21,439
is what's what's the follow-up from the

3479
02:27:24,950 --> 02:27:22,640
white house

3480
02:27:27,990 --> 02:27:24,960
what's the follow-up from the joint or

3481
02:27:33,990 --> 02:27:30,950
where's the data what was who

3482
02:27:34,950 --> 02:27:34,000
and nobody has brought this up

3483
02:27:36,389 --> 02:27:34,960
right

3484
02:27:39,990 --> 02:27:36,399
and you got like you know the story

3485
02:27:44,309 --> 02:27:40,000
about eisenhower when he sent liaison to

3486
02:27:46,230 --> 02:27:44,319
area 51 to a cia base to find out what's

3487
02:27:47,510 --> 02:27:46,240
going on down there and then they come

3488
02:27:49,349 --> 02:27:47,520
back and they don't they were

3489
02:27:51,270 --> 02:27:49,359
stonewalled he said listen

3490
02:27:53,349 --> 02:27:51,280
i'm gonna move the first army out of

3491
02:27:55,270 --> 02:27:53,359
colorado down there we're gonna storm

3492
02:27:57,590 --> 02:27:55,280
the damn place and we're gonna find out

3493
02:27:59,590 --> 02:27:57,600
what's going on you go back there and

3494
02:28:00,630 --> 02:27:59,600
you don't come back without something to

3495
02:28:02,389 --> 02:28:00,640
tell me

3496
02:28:04,710 --> 02:28:02,399
that's right we don't have any

3497
02:28:06,150 --> 02:28:04,720
presidents like that anymore man that's

3498
02:28:08,550 --> 02:28:06,160
willing to

3499
02:28:11,429 --> 02:28:08,560
rattle that tree

3500
02:28:14,550 --> 02:28:11,439
man you represent the people and without

3501
02:28:17,429 --> 02:28:14,560
us there is no military there is no

3502
02:28:19,349 --> 02:28:17,439
capitol hill there is no congress or

3503
02:28:20,469 --> 02:28:19,359
senate there is none of that no

3504
02:28:22,309 --> 02:28:20,479
paychecks

3505
02:28:24,070 --> 02:28:22,319
we all packed up and left the united

3506
02:28:25,910 --> 02:28:24,080
states and went somewhere else what are

3507
02:28:29,349 --> 02:28:25,920
they going to do well

3508
02:28:32,309 --> 02:28:29,359
and so i i think that is the most uh

3509
02:28:34,389 --> 02:28:32,319
important and fundamental question that

3510
02:28:37,110 --> 02:28:34,399
nobody wants to ask nobody not even

3511
02:28:39,190 --> 02:28:37,120
marco rubio because it could be done it

3512
02:28:41,349 --> 02:28:39,200
could be done jimmy

3513
02:28:44,790 --> 02:28:41,359
look and and here's the deal you gave a

3514
02:28:47,510 --> 02:28:44,800
great example brother a great example

3515
02:28:51,349 --> 02:28:47,520
because how many people have come on our

3516
02:28:54,550 --> 02:28:51,359
radio programs and said nobody debriefed

3517
02:28:56,630 --> 02:28:54,560
us we never signed an nda

3518
02:28:58,070 --> 02:28:56,640
in that nimitz event

3519
02:29:00,870 --> 02:28:58,080
kevin day

3520
02:29:01,750 --> 02:29:00,880
all of them you know what i mean that no

3521
02:29:03,190 --> 02:29:01,760
we didn't

3522
02:29:05,590 --> 02:29:03,200
nobody

3523
02:29:07,590 --> 02:29:05,600
you know it just went away

3524
02:29:10,710 --> 02:29:07,600
and we didn't have to sign anything so

3525
02:29:13,670 --> 02:29:10,720
if there's no non-disclosures going on

3526
02:29:15,990 --> 02:29:13,680
if fravor didn't have to sign an nda you

3527
02:29:17,429 --> 02:29:16,000
know he was the guy who first got up on

3528
02:29:21,270 --> 02:29:17,439
him

3529
02:29:23,349 --> 02:29:21,280
but it was kevin day who

3530
02:29:25,750 --> 02:29:23,359
made it happen he was the one who

3531
02:29:27,590 --> 02:29:25,760
approached the skipper and told him we

3532
02:29:30,230 --> 02:29:27,600
need to go see what the hell's out there

3533
02:29:32,389 --> 02:29:30,240
we need to go see what these are

3534
02:29:34,550 --> 02:29:32,399
if we have an incident and we didn't go

3535
02:29:38,550 --> 02:29:34,560
investigate it it's going to be your

3536
02:29:40,870 --> 02:29:38,560
butt not mine now i remember i remember

3537
02:29:42,469 --> 02:29:40,880
before we get to the break um and i'm

3538
02:29:44,309 --> 02:29:42,479
just going to keep you on let's keep

3539
02:29:46,710 --> 02:29:44,319
this conversation going and we'll pick

3540
02:29:47,510 --> 02:29:46,720
it up after the break but um

3541
02:29:48,710 --> 02:29:47,520
i

3542
02:29:51,830 --> 02:29:48,720
way

3543
02:29:54,550 --> 02:29:51,840
before the new york times article

3544
02:29:55,910 --> 02:29:54,560
before the to the stars academy live

3545
02:29:57,110 --> 02:29:55,920
press conference

3546
02:30:00,230 --> 02:29:57,120
um

3547
02:30:03,110 --> 02:30:00,240
somebody had sent me the link

3548
02:30:06,389 --> 02:30:03,120
to paco's website

3549
02:30:09,270 --> 02:30:06,399
and and i don't know how you know so

3550
02:30:11,030 --> 02:30:09,280
anyway which was

3551
02:30:13,670 --> 02:30:11,040
the first

3552
02:30:15,750 --> 02:30:13,680
conversation that fravor had

3553
02:30:17,590 --> 02:30:15,760
uh on this website which was a website

3554
02:30:20,230 --> 02:30:17,600
where pilots

3555
02:30:22,150 --> 02:30:20,240
right navy pilot would go and just hang

3556
02:30:25,030 --> 02:30:22,160
out and talk and and they had their

3557
02:30:26,550 --> 02:30:25,040
little very small site uh and if you

3558
02:30:28,550 --> 02:30:26,560
weren't a navy pilot you wouldn't have

3559
02:30:30,710 --> 02:30:28,560
known about it but i get the link

3560
02:30:33,429 --> 02:30:30,720
and it had that that famous picture of

3561
02:30:35,270 --> 02:30:33,439
the tic tac in in the article right the

3562
02:30:37,110 --> 02:30:35,280
the the balloon

3563
02:30:39,910 --> 02:30:37,120
and that's there and i'm reading this

3564
02:30:41,750 --> 02:30:39,920
article i'm like holy crap right so i go

3565
02:30:45,349 --> 02:30:41,760
and i look up dave fravor

3566
02:30:47,510 --> 02:30:45,359
and i find him on a tv show uh carrier

3567
02:30:49,590 --> 02:30:47,520
or something on history china i've just

3568
02:30:52,070 --> 02:30:49,600
seen that before this happened right

3569
02:30:54,790 --> 02:30:52,080
right and so and i'm like okay so this

3570
02:30:56,630 --> 02:30:54,800
guy david fravor is a is a real person

3571
02:30:59,349 --> 02:30:56,640
and i'm reading the article

3572
02:31:01,670 --> 02:30:59,359
and and i thought to myself that why

3573
02:31:05,190 --> 02:31:01,680
where's the incident report

3574
02:31:07,030 --> 02:31:05,200
where is the paper trail on this

3575
02:31:10,469 --> 02:31:07,040
and i thought of john greenwald

3576
02:31:13,349 --> 02:31:10,479
immediately this is way before ttsa was

3577
02:31:14,950 --> 02:31:13,359
a few months and then of course you know

3578
02:31:18,389 --> 02:31:14,960
we all know what happened and what

3579
02:31:20,790 --> 02:31:18,399
transpired after that but fravor was out

3580
02:31:24,150 --> 02:31:20,800
there talking about it on a public

3581
02:31:26,070 --> 02:31:24,160
website uh with his pilot buddies and i

3582
02:31:29,270 --> 02:31:26,080
think paco wrote the article i think it

3583
02:31:30,630 --> 02:31:29,280
was him i could be wrong um i don't even

3584
02:31:31,750 --> 02:31:30,640
know if it's up it would have to go back

3585
02:31:34,230 --> 02:31:31,760
to the uh

3586
02:31:36,550 --> 02:31:34,240
the way back machine on the web to go

3587
02:31:39,750 --> 02:31:36,560
back and see the original piece but it

3588
02:31:41,110 --> 02:31:39,760
was right there and it was detailed

3589
02:31:43,910 --> 02:31:41,120
everything that went down with the

3590
02:31:45,110 --> 02:31:43,920
nimitz way before ttsa or the new york

3591
02:31:46,469 --> 02:31:45,120
times

3592
02:31:49,510 --> 02:31:46,479
yeah yeah

3593
02:31:51,270 --> 02:31:49,520
that's true that's true and and

3594
02:31:53,270 --> 02:31:51,280
further you know

3595
02:31:55,510 --> 02:31:53,280
submitting the fact that

3596
02:31:57,750 --> 02:31:55,520
this could be followed this this these

3597
02:31:58,790 --> 02:31:57,760
questions could be asked and don't seem

3598
02:32:02,790 --> 02:31:58,800
to be

3599
02:32:04,309 --> 02:32:02,800
able to

3600
02:32:06,070 --> 02:32:04,319
i think that's one of the things that's

3601
02:32:09,990 --> 02:32:06,080
really driven like

3602
02:32:12,389 --> 02:32:10,000
you know kevin and a lot of these guys

3603
02:32:14,790 --> 02:32:12,399
you know what i i bet if i go oh that

3604
02:32:17,030 --> 02:32:14,800
they just you know they're stuck in if i

3605
02:32:19,349 --> 02:32:17,040
go back through my email

3606
02:32:22,230 --> 02:32:19,359
i can find

3607
02:32:23,830 --> 02:32:22,240
the email that i sent to paco

3608
02:32:25,510 --> 02:32:23,840
i wrote them and i was like hey man can

3609
02:32:26,710 --> 02:32:25,520
you put me in touch with this uh david

3610
02:32:28,469 --> 02:32:26,720
fraver guy

3611
02:32:29,349 --> 02:32:28,479
you know i would love to talk to him i'm

3612
02:32:30,950 --> 02:32:29,359
uh

3613
02:32:33,429 --> 02:32:30,960
i have a show

3614
02:32:36,469 --> 02:32:33,439
uh about ufos i'm pretty sure i never

3615
02:32:39,990 --> 02:32:36,479
heard back but i have that email that

3616
02:32:41,349 --> 02:32:40,000
that i sent to him back in the day

3617
02:32:42,630 --> 02:32:41,359
so there you go let's take our break

3618
02:32:45,590 --> 02:32:42,640
right here this is fade to black how

3619
02:32:47,670 --> 02:32:45,600
much deep church i dragged in race

3620
02:32:49,670 --> 02:32:47,680
hobbes for a little post game wrap up

3621
02:32:51,429 --> 02:32:49,680
and uh let's go into some overtime right

3622
02:32:53,349 --> 02:32:51,439
now this is faded black i'm your jimmy

3623
02:32:55,860 --> 02:32:53,359
church more with race after this short

3624
02:33:01,930 --> 02:32:55,870
break stay with us

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uh

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you're listening to jimmy church and

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fade to black

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hey what up y'all biblical fox here and

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you are listening to my boy jimmy church

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02:38:35,190 --> 02:38:33,030
welcome back fade to black i'm real

3728
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shitty church i want to thank james fox

3729
02:38:38,710 --> 02:38:37,200
for coming in tonight

3730
02:38:41,990 --> 02:38:38,720
and uh

3731
02:38:44,550 --> 02:38:42,000
look he really

3732
02:38:46,710 --> 02:38:44,560
wanted to uh not only do the show but do

3733
02:38:49,190 --> 02:38:46,720
a full show and stuff and

3734
02:38:50,389 --> 02:38:49,200
and he was like church man uh i've got a

3735
02:38:52,790 --> 02:38:50,399
team here

3736
02:38:57,270 --> 02:38:52,800
and we are in the middle of this and

3737
02:38:59,429 --> 02:38:57,280
uh uh uh uh and

3738
02:39:02,070 --> 02:38:59,439
we'll get him back for a full show but

3739
02:39:03,990 --> 02:39:02,080
i'm telling you right now he has been

3740
02:39:07,110 --> 02:39:04,000
absolutely working tonight for him to

3741
02:39:08,389 --> 02:39:07,120
give us an hour uh tonight was just uh

3742
02:39:10,469 --> 02:39:08,399
uh uh

3743
02:39:12,790 --> 02:39:10,479
a great thing and so i do want to thank

3744
02:39:14,630 --> 02:39:12,800
james fox for coming in and of course we

3745
02:39:19,510 --> 02:39:14,640
have race hobbs here doing a post-game

3746
02:39:21,510 --> 02:39:19,520
wrap-up um race uh i want to ask you

3747
02:39:25,429 --> 02:39:21,520
uh and i've no i haven't even asked you

3748
02:39:26,950 --> 02:39:25,439
this off of the air we talk every day um

3749
02:39:29,750 --> 02:39:26,960
i'm gonna ask you the same question that

3750
02:39:31,750 --> 02:39:29,760
i ask everybody every guest on the show

3751
02:39:33,910 --> 02:39:31,760
i i want their opinions

3752
02:39:35,349 --> 02:39:33,920
and and i always get a different answer

3753
02:39:36,389 --> 02:39:35,359
which i love

3754
02:39:38,950 --> 02:39:36,399
um

3755
02:39:40,710 --> 02:39:38,960
do you think 2022

3756
02:39:43,349 --> 02:39:40,720
the la okay

3757
02:39:46,790 --> 02:39:43,359
if we back up uh and you and i have been

3758
02:39:49,110 --> 02:39:46,800
working together now for for seven years

3759
02:39:50,630 --> 02:39:49,120
and uh which uh it's seven years too

3760
02:39:53,750 --> 02:39:50,640
long too you're you're you're making

3761
02:39:57,590 --> 02:39:53,760
history you're making me age quickly um

3762
02:40:00,710 --> 02:39:57,600
is this if we go back to the way that i

3763
02:40:03,190 --> 02:40:00,720
handled uh the days of disclosure back

3764
02:40:05,590 --> 02:40:03,200
in december of 2017 and

3765
02:40:09,030 --> 02:40:05,600
and man i'm breaking in doing a live

3766
02:40:12,230 --> 02:40:09,040
show on saturday and holy crap

3767
02:40:14,870 --> 02:40:12,240
and and and that momentum um

3768
02:40:17,070 --> 02:40:14,880
do you anticipate uh

3769
02:40:20,309 --> 02:40:17,080
some crazy

3770
02:40:23,110 --> 02:40:20,319
2022 where we're going to be having

3771
02:40:25,750 --> 02:40:23,120
breaking news and and craziness do you

3772
02:40:29,349 --> 02:40:25,760
think 2022 is the year

3773
02:40:30,630 --> 02:40:29,359
it's very possible and i say that

3774
02:40:33,269 --> 02:40:30,640
because it's

3775
02:40:34,710 --> 02:40:33,279
a political midterm

3776
02:40:37,670 --> 02:40:34,720
and

3777
02:40:40,389 --> 02:40:37,680
there's a lot of reasons

3778
02:40:41,830 --> 02:40:40,399
without going into politics that i think

3779
02:40:44,710 --> 02:40:41,840
media

3780
02:40:47,590 --> 02:40:44,720
which is the you know the strong arm of

3781
02:40:50,150 --> 02:40:47,600
the politics in the united states now

3782
02:40:52,309 --> 02:40:50,160
always has been but now it's crazy

3783
02:40:54,309 --> 02:40:52,319
i think they will have lots of reasons

3784
02:40:55,670 --> 02:40:54,319
to you know to bring up things to

3785
02:40:58,230 --> 02:40:55,680
deflect

3786
02:41:00,070 --> 02:40:58,240
during this this political period so

3787
02:41:02,790 --> 02:41:00,080
it's very possible

3788
02:41:05,830 --> 02:41:02,800
that any stories or any

3789
02:41:07,110 --> 02:41:05,840
feeds that come forward could be big

3790
02:41:10,469 --> 02:41:07,120
public

3791
02:41:12,150 --> 02:41:10,479
spectacles again i i you know i do know

3792
02:41:13,910 --> 02:41:12,160
i kind of have my ear to the track like

3793
02:41:16,790 --> 02:41:13,920
you and

3794
02:41:19,910 --> 02:41:16,800
we know that there are things

3795
02:41:22,150 --> 02:41:19,920
that are working behind the scenes

3796
02:41:23,510 --> 02:41:22,160
always i mean it's not nothing new i

3797
02:41:27,910 --> 02:41:23,520
have to admit that

3798
02:41:31,910 --> 02:41:27,920
but i think our ability to kind of have

3799
02:41:35,349 --> 02:41:31,920
a real tether to it and and know that

3800
02:41:37,030 --> 02:41:35,359
these things are taking place is is uh

3801
02:41:39,269 --> 02:41:37,040
it's refreshing

3802
02:41:41,190 --> 02:41:39,279
for me you know for somebody just like

3803
02:41:42,950 --> 02:41:41,200
all of the faders out there listening

3804
02:41:44,790 --> 02:41:42,960
you know i was

3805
02:41:47,110 --> 02:41:44,800
just like them you know someone with an

3806
02:41:48,870 --> 02:41:47,120
interest in this and i tuned in to

3807
02:41:50,230 --> 02:41:48,880
people like you jimmy and

3808
02:41:52,630 --> 02:41:50,240
and and

3809
02:41:53,670 --> 02:41:52,640
followed people like you back then and

3810
02:41:57,510 --> 02:41:53,680
you know

3811
02:41:58,710 --> 02:41:57,520
i nurtured my interest for over 30 years

3812
02:42:01,510 --> 02:41:58,720
and

3813
02:42:03,990 --> 02:42:01,520
i found myself right here

3814
02:42:05,429 --> 02:42:04,000
you know knowing many of these people

3815
02:42:08,389 --> 02:42:05,439
that are

3816
02:42:10,469 --> 02:42:08,399
out in the public

3817
02:42:13,750 --> 02:42:10,479
regarding this subject and many people

3818
02:42:16,389 --> 02:42:13,760
that aren't and never will be

3819
02:42:18,550 --> 02:42:16,399
on a first name

3820
02:42:20,790 --> 02:42:18,560
basis

3821
02:42:22,309 --> 02:42:20,800
and i really honestly don't know how i

3822
02:42:25,750 --> 02:42:22,319
got here

3823
02:42:28,389 --> 02:42:25,760
i i i really don't because i am nothing

3824
02:42:31,590 --> 02:42:28,399
special i'm just a i'm just a country

3825
02:42:33,349 --> 02:42:31,600
boy from the valley river valley here in

3826
02:42:36,630 --> 02:42:33,359
arkansas and i

3827
02:42:38,630 --> 02:42:36,640
i just had a real passion for this and i

3828
02:42:41,269 --> 02:42:38,640
stayed with it and i you know i worked

3829
02:42:43,269 --> 02:42:41,279
my butt off um

3830
02:42:46,309 --> 02:42:43,279
to make sure

3831
02:42:47,990 --> 02:42:46,319
that all of those times jimmy that i

3832
02:42:49,990 --> 02:42:48,000
fell and that i

3833
02:42:52,830 --> 02:42:50,000
made a fool out of myself believing

3834
02:42:56,469 --> 02:42:52,840
something that was really foolish and

3835
02:42:57,349 --> 02:42:56,479
man there's way more of that than there

3836
02:43:00,550 --> 02:42:57,359
were

3837
02:43:02,790 --> 02:43:00,560
successes on you know real issues and

3838
02:43:03,990 --> 02:43:02,800
real cases and real happenings and

3839
02:43:06,230 --> 02:43:04,000
events

3840
02:43:08,150 --> 02:43:06,240
but you know i think

3841
02:43:11,190 --> 02:43:08,160
i think just like most successful people

3842
02:43:13,349 --> 02:43:11,200
you learn how to fail really good

3843
02:43:15,590 --> 02:43:13,359
and then you'll find yourself

3844
02:43:17,030 --> 02:43:15,600
in a position sometime

3845
02:43:19,030 --> 02:43:17,040
down that track

3846
02:43:19,910 --> 02:43:19,040
where you can

3847
02:43:22,309 --> 02:43:19,920
really

3848
02:43:23,990 --> 02:43:22,319
contribute and make a difference for the

3849
02:43:26,630 --> 02:43:24,000
better and that's what you and i have

3850
02:43:29,670 --> 02:43:26,640
always you know how many offers you've

3851
02:43:31,830 --> 02:43:29,680
had jimmy to do terrestrial and

3852
02:43:33,510 --> 02:43:31,840
mainstream big projects

3853
02:43:35,429 --> 02:43:33,520
and we've walked away from them we've

3854
02:43:37,910 --> 02:43:35,439
stayed away from them we didn't take

3855
02:43:41,030 --> 02:43:37,920
them right because here

3856
02:43:41,830 --> 02:43:41,040
we have our say and nobody can change

3857
02:43:44,710 --> 02:43:41,840
that

3858
02:43:48,309 --> 02:43:44,720
well and and and uh one of the things

3859
02:43:50,550 --> 02:43:48,319
that i enjoy the chatter out there

3860
02:43:52,790 --> 02:43:50,560
um and also

3861
02:43:53,910 --> 02:43:52,800
from some of the mainstream

3862
02:43:57,670 --> 02:43:53,920
uh

3863
02:44:00,150 --> 02:43:57,680
and one of my

3864
02:44:03,110 --> 02:44:00,160
my opinions on things

3865
02:44:06,070 --> 02:44:03,120
um one of the prevailing

3866
02:44:09,429 --> 02:44:06,080
statements that keeps coming back to me

3867
02:44:12,389 --> 02:44:09,439
is if disclosure happens

3868
02:44:14,630 --> 02:44:12,399
what are you going to talk about

3869
02:44:15,590 --> 02:44:14,640
because it's going to be over you know

3870
02:44:18,309 --> 02:44:15,600
and

3871
02:44:20,469 --> 02:44:18,319
i don't look at it that way do you i i

3872
02:44:22,309 --> 02:44:20,479
would think that it is going to it

3873
02:44:25,349 --> 02:44:22,319
said that when when

3874
02:44:27,349 --> 02:44:25,359
when they're ready to reveal themselves

3875
02:44:28,710 --> 02:44:27,359
and that'll be the way it happens most

3876
02:44:32,950 --> 02:44:28,720
likely

3877
02:44:34,630 --> 02:44:32,960
we go from investigators and researchers

3878
02:44:37,990 --> 02:44:34,640
to counselors

3879
02:44:42,070 --> 02:44:40,710
i mean i mean that's only

3880
02:44:43,670 --> 02:44:42,080
i mean i'm looking for the future you

3881
02:44:46,389 --> 02:44:43,680
know what i mean after all this happens

3882
02:44:48,309 --> 02:44:46,399
if it happens in my lifetime i've gotta

3883
02:44:51,349 --> 02:44:48,319
you know i gotta make sure we've got a

3884
02:44:52,710 --> 02:44:51,359
career path to follow this

3885
02:44:55,830 --> 02:44:52,720
you know i mean there's gonna be a lot

3886
02:44:59,429 --> 02:44:55,840
of people out there that have absolutely

3887
02:45:01,910 --> 02:44:59,439
no desire to go down this road they've

3888
02:45:03,590 --> 02:45:01,920
got bills to pay they've got jobs that

3889
02:45:05,590 --> 02:45:03,600
they've got to keep

3890
02:45:07,750 --> 02:45:05,600
um they've got food to put on the table

3891
02:45:10,950 --> 02:45:07,760
kids to raise they don't have time

3892
02:45:12,550 --> 02:45:10,960
um and i get it um but doesn't it all

3893
02:45:14,630 --> 02:45:12,560
explode

3894
02:45:17,110 --> 02:45:14,640
doesn't it know something jimmy when

3895
02:45:20,389 --> 02:45:17,120
they when if this comes down like that

3896
02:45:22,230 --> 02:45:20,399
they're going to need people that really

3897
02:45:24,630 --> 02:45:22,240
know the history

3898
02:45:26,309 --> 02:45:24,640
and the reality of all of this and they

3899
02:45:28,630 --> 02:45:26,319
need to find people they're going to

3900
02:45:31,190 --> 02:45:28,640
need to have people that can deliver

3901
02:45:35,110 --> 02:45:31,200
that information to them calmly and

3902
02:45:37,110 --> 02:45:35,120
respectively and um and considerately

3903
02:45:39,990 --> 02:45:37,120
well there's that part there's that part

3904
02:45:43,110 --> 02:45:40,000
but here's here's here's a a

3905
02:45:45,429 --> 02:45:43,120
another piece of the picture that when i

3906
02:45:48,630 --> 02:45:45,439
say explode

3907
02:45:52,469 --> 02:45:48,640
the funding for nasa

3908
02:45:55,990 --> 02:45:52,479
if if this goes in that direction

3909
02:45:57,349 --> 02:45:56,000
nasa is going to get all the money that

3910
02:45:58,630 --> 02:45:57,359
they're gonna have money that they can't

3911
02:46:02,630 --> 02:45:58,640
spend

3912
02:46:04,870 --> 02:46:02,640
right that the the spacex elon musk and

3913
02:46:05,750 --> 02:46:04,880
can you imagine

3914
02:46:14,710 --> 02:46:05,760
the

3915
02:46:17,510 --> 02:46:14,720
disclosure everything explodes at that

3916
02:46:20,870 --> 02:46:17,520
point oh my gosh

3917
02:46:24,469 --> 02:46:20,880
that's true that's very very true it's

3918
02:46:28,710 --> 02:46:24,479
it's it will profoundly change the world

3919
02:46:33,590 --> 02:46:28,720
profoundly in every aspect from our feet

3920
02:46:35,670 --> 02:46:33,600
to the heavens it's just that big of a

3921
02:46:38,150 --> 02:46:35,680
reality and

3922
02:46:40,070 --> 02:46:38,160
that's what all of those other people

3923
02:46:42,150 --> 02:46:40,080
out there that have never looked into

3924
02:46:43,190 --> 02:46:42,160
this that's what

3925
02:46:47,990 --> 02:46:43,200
that's what

3926
02:46:52,630 --> 02:46:49,750
you know hopefully there won't be a

3927
02:46:54,309 --> 02:46:52,640
breakdown of basal basic social services

3928
02:46:55,349 --> 02:46:54,319
i don't see it i don't see it i don't

3929
02:46:57,590 --> 02:46:55,359
see it

3930
02:46:59,990 --> 02:46:57,600
i don't i i don't i really hope you know

3931
02:47:02,150 --> 02:47:00,000
i mean as craziest things have gotten

3932
02:47:05,510 --> 02:47:02,160
for far less

3933
02:47:07,429 --> 02:47:05,520
i don't uh do not imagine that you know

3934
02:47:09,830 --> 02:47:07,439
we're going to have a collapse of of

3935
02:47:12,389 --> 02:47:09,840
society i want the audience to put this

3936
02:47:14,950 --> 02:47:12,399
in right in the front of your forehead

3937
02:47:17,750 --> 02:47:14,960
and listen to what i'm about to say

3938
02:47:20,950 --> 02:47:17,760
can you imagine disclosure happens can

3939
02:47:22,790 --> 02:47:20,960
you imagine how many arecibo telescopes

3940
02:47:25,830 --> 02:47:22,800
get built

3941
02:47:26,950 --> 02:47:25,840
right think about i mean just every

3942
02:47:29,349 --> 02:47:26,960
country

3943
02:47:32,790 --> 02:47:29,359
on this planet is going to be building

3944
02:47:34,870 --> 02:47:32,800
something and the interest into this and

3945
02:47:37,269 --> 02:47:34,880
and and not only

3946
02:47:38,230 --> 02:47:37,279
uh communication with et and reaching

3947
02:47:40,230 --> 02:47:38,240
out there and trying to figure out

3948
02:47:44,070 --> 02:47:40,240
what's going on but that's physics and

3949
02:47:46,630 --> 02:47:44,080
astronomy and and uh uh avi loeb and and

3950
02:47:48,550 --> 02:47:46,640
all of the interest into that and how

3951
02:47:51,349 --> 02:47:48,560
that's to happen of course the movie

3952
02:47:53,990 --> 02:47:51,359
industry and and television it's going

3953
02:47:55,110 --> 02:47:54,000
to explode to the extreme and then you

3954
02:47:58,550 --> 02:47:55,120
have

3955
02:48:00,830 --> 02:47:58,560
the uh the design and the engineering

3956
02:48:04,630 --> 02:48:00,840
into

3957
02:48:06,950 --> 02:48:04,640
spacecraft and and now let's go and meet

3958
02:48:10,790 --> 02:48:06,960
our space brothers let's let's and

3959
02:48:13,990 --> 02:48:10,800
sisters let's get th tha i'm telling you

3960
02:48:15,590 --> 02:48:14,000
it will explode there will be arecibos

3961
02:48:17,510 --> 02:48:15,600
in every state

3962
02:48:20,469 --> 02:48:17,520
in in the united states everybody's

3963
02:48:22,870 --> 02:48:20,479
going to want to get in every university

3964
02:48:23,750 --> 02:48:22,880
you know and we talked about paul allen

3965
02:48:31,190 --> 02:48:23,760
and

3966
02:48:31,990 --> 02:48:31,200
that have been built in seti think about

3967
02:48:37,990 --> 02:48:32,000
the

3968
02:48:40,309 --> 02:48:38,000
have screamed for funding and going back

3969
02:48:41,990 --> 02:48:40,319
to nasa nasa never had enough money to

3970
02:48:46,309 --> 02:48:42,000
do what they wanted to do

3971
02:48:48,230 --> 02:48:46,319
right and uh and and and elon musk is

3972
02:48:49,349 --> 02:48:48,240
wasting wasting money trying to get to

3973
02:48:52,070 --> 02:48:49,359
mars

3974
02:48:53,750 --> 02:48:52,080
disclosure happens that's a whole nother

3975
02:48:56,309 --> 02:48:53,760
way to look at things

3976
02:48:59,110 --> 02:48:56,319
i'm waiting on aliens to drive that

3977
02:49:00,630 --> 02:48:59,120
that tesla back and bring it back

3978
02:49:03,030 --> 02:49:00,640
you know what i mean one of them is

3979
02:49:05,190 --> 02:49:03,040
going to be the proud new owner

3980
02:49:07,349 --> 02:49:05,200
of a tesla yeah yeah

3981
02:49:10,550 --> 02:49:07,359
did you guys did you guys did you guys

3982
02:49:12,550 --> 02:49:10,560
double park a tesla out of mars

3983
02:49:13,830 --> 02:49:12,560
i thought we'd return this to you did

3984
02:49:15,349 --> 02:49:13,840
somebody lose a

3985
02:49:17,030 --> 02:49:15,359
tesla

3986
02:49:18,790 --> 02:49:17,040
i think that it you know

3987
02:49:20,870 --> 02:49:18,800
it's going to be a it's going to be a

3988
02:49:24,469 --> 02:49:20,880
crazy place i think when that day takes

3989
02:49:26,950 --> 02:49:24,479
place but i i honestly i believe it's

3990
02:49:29,349 --> 02:49:26,960
it will be them that makes that happen

3991
02:49:30,870 --> 02:49:29,359
because you know

3992
02:49:33,990 --> 02:49:30,880
the only other way that's going to go

3993
02:49:37,030 --> 02:49:34,000
down is for everybody that can hear my

3994
02:49:40,870 --> 02:49:37,040
voice live on this program tonight

3995
02:49:43,710 --> 02:49:40,880
and then in replay and on demand later

3996
02:49:45,590 --> 02:49:43,720
become an active

3997
02:49:47,349 --> 02:49:45,600
investigator

3998
02:49:49,590 --> 02:49:47,359
someone who

3999
02:49:50,790 --> 02:49:49,600
has uh goes out they get all the tools

4000
02:49:54,630 --> 02:49:50,800
that they need

4001
02:49:56,550 --> 02:49:54,640
to take notes to record to film to to to

4002
02:49:59,269 --> 02:49:56,560
photograph

4003
02:50:00,630 --> 02:49:59,279
and about a thousand business cards to

4004
02:50:02,150 --> 02:50:00,640
start

4005
02:50:03,910 --> 02:50:02,160
and you need to go out into the world

4006
02:50:05,750 --> 02:50:03,920
and you need to start handing those out

4007
02:50:07,750 --> 02:50:05,760
and letting people know

4008
02:50:09,030 --> 02:50:07,760
state troopers

4009
02:50:12,469 --> 02:50:09,040
sheriffs

4010
02:50:15,269 --> 02:50:12,479
coast guard reach out to me yeah farmers

4011
02:50:17,990 --> 02:50:15,279
right get those cards in the hands of

4012
02:50:20,389 --> 02:50:18,000
people that one day

4013
02:50:22,790 --> 02:50:20,399
when something falls out of the sky some

4014
02:50:24,710 --> 02:50:22,800
farmer goes out in the field and he's

4015
02:50:26,309 --> 02:50:24,720
he finds something smoldering in his

4016
02:50:28,710 --> 02:50:26,319
land back there he doesn't know what it

4017
02:50:30,070 --> 02:50:28,720
is he's got your business card he's

4018
02:50:33,190 --> 02:50:30,080
going to call you up and say i think

4019
02:50:35,190 --> 02:50:33,200
there is a ufo you know furrowed into

4020
02:50:37,190 --> 02:50:35,200
the ground back here

4021
02:50:39,429 --> 02:50:37,200
and it's going to be you on the front

4022
02:50:40,630 --> 02:50:39,439
lines that could

4023
02:50:44,630 --> 02:50:40,640
truly

4024
02:50:47,910 --> 02:50:44,640
bust this reality wide open because

4025
02:50:49,990 --> 02:50:47,920
when you wade through all of the stories

4026
02:50:51,190 --> 02:50:50,000
all of the accounts all of the lights in

4027
02:50:54,150 --> 02:50:51,200
the sky

4028
02:50:56,230 --> 02:50:54,160
all of the rumors of you know alien

4029
02:50:59,190 --> 02:50:56,240
bases on the far side of the moon and

4030
02:51:01,269 --> 02:50:59,200
megaliths on mars and pyramids on mars

4031
02:51:03,910 --> 02:51:01,279
and faces on mars and

4032
02:51:06,630 --> 02:51:03,920
you know all of this stuff crop circles

4033
02:51:08,790 --> 02:51:06,640
and implants once you mire through all

4034
02:51:11,990 --> 02:51:08,800
of this

4035
02:51:14,070 --> 02:51:12,000
the one reality

4036
02:51:17,190 --> 02:51:14,080
that cannot be

4037
02:51:19,750 --> 02:51:17,200
it cannot be

4038
02:51:21,349 --> 02:51:19,760
challenged is that physical objects are

4039
02:51:23,110 --> 02:51:21,359
coming and going

4040
02:51:24,870 --> 02:51:23,120
from our oceans

4041
02:51:27,349 --> 02:51:24,880
and outer space

4042
02:51:29,990 --> 02:51:27,359
they're traveling around wherever they

4043
02:51:31,190 --> 02:51:30,000
want whenever they want intelligently

4044
02:51:34,469 --> 02:51:31,200
controlled

4045
02:51:35,590 --> 02:51:34,479
and we have instruments that can detect

4046
02:51:36,630 --> 02:51:35,600
them

4047
02:51:39,590 --> 02:51:36,640
which

4048
02:51:44,870 --> 02:51:42,230
with admissible evidence with

4049
02:51:48,230 --> 02:51:44,880
and with evidenced physical evidence

4050
02:51:50,309 --> 02:51:48,240
that you can take to court and prove

4051
02:51:53,510 --> 02:51:50,319
that this is really happening

4052
02:51:56,790 --> 02:51:53,520
from the same technology sources

4053
02:51:57,590 --> 02:51:56,800
we launch counter missiles

4054
02:52:01,269 --> 02:51:57,600
to

4055
02:52:05,670 --> 02:52:01,279
engage an offensive weapon

4056
02:52:09,190 --> 02:52:05,680
from radar we detect something by radar

4057
02:52:11,110 --> 02:52:09,200
we launch war machines based off of that

4058
02:52:12,389 --> 02:52:11,120
information right and that same

4059
02:52:13,670 --> 02:52:12,399
information

4060
02:52:16,950 --> 02:52:13,680
derivative

4061
02:52:19,830 --> 02:52:16,960
for objects physical objects up there

4062
02:52:22,870 --> 02:52:19,840
and underwater um

4063
02:52:24,309 --> 02:52:22,880
is a reality and we know it

4064
02:52:25,670 --> 02:52:24,319
we can when these things are close

4065
02:52:28,150 --> 02:52:25,680
enough to the ground or on the ground

4066
02:52:30,389 --> 02:52:28,160
they change our environment and we can

4067
02:52:32,469 --> 02:52:30,399
detect that so we know

4068
02:52:34,710 --> 02:52:32,479
that these things are out there and this

4069
02:52:37,030 --> 02:52:34,720
is long before

4070
02:52:39,910 --> 02:52:37,040
you know i mean these things were

4071
02:52:41,990 --> 02:52:39,920
described long before

4072
02:52:44,710 --> 02:52:42,000
hot air balloons and lighter than air

4073
02:52:47,670 --> 02:52:44,720
dirigibles were up there anything other

4074
02:52:50,790 --> 02:52:47,680
than birds were up there

4075
02:52:54,150 --> 02:52:50,800
um and once the technology developed we

4076
02:52:58,150 --> 02:52:54,160
developed it you know we used it

4077
02:52:59,990 --> 02:52:58,160
and this is what we know to be a fact

4078
02:53:02,150 --> 02:53:00,000
where they're from

4079
02:53:03,510 --> 02:53:02,160
what they're doing here

4080
02:53:05,190 --> 02:53:03,520
you know

4081
02:53:08,550 --> 02:53:05,200
all of those questions that could be

4082
02:53:09,750 --> 02:53:08,560
asked are unanswered to this day to us

4083
02:53:12,309 --> 02:53:09,760
but

4084
02:53:14,870 --> 02:53:12,319
that's a fact that's the truth

4085
02:53:17,030 --> 02:53:14,880
uh in the over 30 years jimmy that i've

4086
02:53:19,750 --> 02:53:17,040
been doing this that's what i can tell

4087
02:53:22,469 --> 02:53:19,760
you that you can chisel

4088
02:53:25,030 --> 02:53:22,479
into gray granite somewhere

4089
02:53:26,630 --> 02:53:25,040
and a thousand years down the road

4090
02:53:29,830 --> 02:53:26,640
it'll be true

4091
02:53:31,030 --> 02:53:29,840
well and and and here here um

4092
02:53:34,950 --> 02:53:31,040
you know i'm talking about you know

4093
02:53:37,030 --> 02:53:34,960
arecibos and spacex and seti and nasa

4094
02:53:38,710 --> 02:53:37,040
and i'm wearing my nasa shirt right now

4095
02:53:41,110 --> 02:53:38,720
and i know what happened

4096
02:53:42,870 --> 02:53:41,120
and and how things would explode here's

4097
02:53:44,150 --> 02:53:42,880
another thing though

4098
02:53:47,590 --> 02:53:44,160
um

4099
02:53:48,309 --> 02:53:47,600
if disclosure happens this year when it

4100
02:54:00,469 --> 02:53:48,319
it

4101
02:54:03,670 --> 02:54:00,479
world

4102
02:54:06,469 --> 02:54:03,680
is now going to offer classes and

4103
02:54:07,670 --> 02:54:06,479
degrees in this subject you're going to

4104
02:54:09,110 --> 02:54:07,680
have

4105
02:54:11,030 --> 02:54:09,120
a lot of subjects yeah you're going to

4106
02:54:13,910 --> 02:54:11,040
have students so what's your major oh

4107
02:54:16,389 --> 02:54:13,920
i'm majoring in et communications

4108
02:54:17,990 --> 02:54:16,399
right this is this is

4109
02:54:21,269 --> 02:54:18,000
the next step

4110
02:54:24,790 --> 02:54:21,279
this when i say it's going to explode

4111
02:54:27,190 --> 02:54:24,800
it is it's it's going to be a global

4112
02:54:30,469 --> 02:54:27,200
industry of some kind and all of the

4113
02:54:32,469 --> 02:54:30,479
logistics that support that

4114
02:54:35,269 --> 02:54:32,479
you it's going to be across the board

4115
02:54:37,110 --> 02:54:35,279
and you will have correspondents and

4116
02:54:39,349 --> 02:54:37,120
journalists that major in et

4117
02:54:41,590 --> 02:54:39,359
communications

4118
02:54:43,590 --> 02:54:41,600
that's that's that's it you have

4119
02:54:45,110 --> 02:54:43,600
sportscasters right you have weather

4120
02:54:48,550 --> 02:54:45,120
people you can have somebody that's

4121
02:54:51,510 --> 02:54:48,560
dealing with et communications manual we

4122
02:54:55,190 --> 02:54:51,520
just have to to to imagine

4123
02:54:58,550 --> 02:54:55,200
what's on the table now i mean there are

4124
02:55:00,550 --> 02:54:58,560
there are things

4125
02:55:04,230 --> 02:55:00,560
that we call

4126
02:55:06,150 --> 02:55:04,240
in the future that are here now that are

4127
02:55:08,550 --> 02:55:06,160
being developed

4128
02:55:12,309 --> 02:55:08,560
engineered and developed now

4129
02:55:13,990 --> 02:55:12,319
that we won't see for 15 20 years

4130
02:55:15,830 --> 02:55:14,000
those are the guys

4131
02:55:17,750 --> 02:55:15,840
those people on the front lines of

4132
02:55:19,910 --> 02:55:17,760
future technology that won't be

4133
02:55:22,550 --> 02:55:19,920
available to the public or to the

4134
02:55:24,870 --> 02:55:22,560
military even for decades

4135
02:55:26,950 --> 02:55:24,880
and they're working on it and it's real

4136
02:55:29,510 --> 02:55:26,960
those are going to be the guys

4137
02:55:30,389 --> 02:55:29,520
that get their their hands wet and all

4138
02:55:32,469 --> 02:55:30,399
of that

4139
02:55:35,349 --> 02:55:32,479
because it's going to be it's going to

4140
02:55:37,190 --> 02:55:35,359
be a crazy place for sure and there are

4141
02:55:39,510 --> 02:55:37,200
futurists out there that we could talk

4142
02:55:41,429 --> 02:55:39,520
to that would probably have a far

4143
02:55:43,349 --> 02:55:41,439
more educated

4144
02:55:44,630 --> 02:55:43,359
um

4145
02:55:49,590 --> 02:55:44,640
interview

4146
02:55:51,590 --> 02:55:49,600
together that you know that might be

4147
02:55:53,110 --> 02:55:51,600
really good for us to go try to find

4148
02:55:53,830 --> 02:55:53,120
those people

4149
02:55:56,550 --> 02:55:53,840
and

4150
02:55:58,710 --> 02:55:56,560
these these tech guys that that are out

4151
02:56:01,030 --> 02:55:58,720
there in in the front

4152
02:56:03,030 --> 02:56:01,040
now what about and all of that yeah have

4153
02:56:04,950 --> 02:56:03,040
you thought about

4154
02:56:08,070 --> 02:56:04,960
uh the

4155
02:56:09,590 --> 02:56:08,080
the contactees the abductees

4156
02:56:12,150 --> 02:56:09,600
that uh

4157
02:56:13,990 --> 02:56:12,160
you know have been uh you know some

4158
02:56:15,830 --> 02:56:14,000
public but have been talking about this

4159
02:56:17,510 --> 02:56:15,840
for such a long time what do we do with

4160
02:56:20,950 --> 02:56:17,520
that element

4161
02:56:23,429 --> 02:56:20,960
uh is this something that uh also needs

4162
02:56:27,269 --> 02:56:23,439
to be addressed uh

4163
02:56:28,469 --> 02:56:27,279
uh for for a bunch of different reasons

4164
02:56:31,110 --> 02:56:28,479
but

4165
02:56:34,389 --> 02:56:31,120
did do these

4166
02:56:36,870 --> 02:56:34,399
are these is there a vindication here

4167
02:56:39,590 --> 02:56:36,880
sure i mean what do we do with that god

4168
02:56:40,389 --> 02:56:39,600
i've never even given that one iota of

4169
02:56:41,910 --> 02:56:40,399
thought

4170
02:56:43,670 --> 02:56:41,920
you know we've got to go back to you

4171
02:56:47,269 --> 02:56:43,680
know that's why you that's why you are

4172
02:56:49,349 --> 02:56:47,279
who you are your your brain clicks like

4173
02:56:51,349 --> 02:56:49,359
those guitars behind you

4174
02:56:53,429 --> 02:56:51,359
vibrating okay all right you know what

4175
02:56:56,790 --> 02:56:53,439
i'm saying like i can't even wrap my

4176
02:56:59,349 --> 02:56:56,800
head around it what do we have impending

4177
02:57:00,550 --> 02:56:59,359
prosecutions going on like that wait but

4178
02:57:01,910 --> 02:57:00,560
that's my point

4179
02:57:04,070 --> 02:57:01,920
you're driving right there is the same

4180
02:57:06,389 --> 02:57:04,080
one that took my sister you know

4181
02:57:09,110 --> 02:57:06,399
that's what i'm talking about right and

4182
02:57:10,710 --> 02:57:09,120
and not only you know the obvious things

4183
02:57:13,830 --> 02:57:10,720
that that are out front like you know

4184
02:57:16,150 --> 02:57:13,840
travis walton um but now we have to go

4185
02:57:18,870 --> 02:57:16,160
back and and revisit

4186
02:57:21,910 --> 02:57:18,880
rendelsham we have to revisit calvin

4187
02:57:24,630 --> 02:57:21,920
parker we have to go back and speak to

4188
02:57:27,110 --> 02:57:24,640
these individuals directly

4189
02:57:30,389 --> 02:57:27,120
to find out what's going on and i'm i'm

4190
02:57:32,230 --> 02:57:30,399
being super serious when i say

4191
02:57:33,190 --> 02:57:32,240
if we make contact

4192
02:57:34,790 --> 02:57:33,200
and

4193
02:57:37,110 --> 02:57:34,800
somebody

4194
02:57:39,670 --> 02:57:37,120
some e.t civilization says you know it

4195
02:57:42,070 --> 02:57:39,680
was us at pascagoula you know we need to

4196
02:57:44,230 --> 02:57:42,080
talk to calvin parker what do we do with

4197
02:57:46,469 --> 02:57:44,240
that what do we do with that situation

4198
02:57:49,830 --> 02:57:46,479
if they want to you know bring up travis

4199
02:57:53,269 --> 02:57:51,750
it's going to have to be a personal deal

4200
02:57:55,269 --> 02:57:53,279
you know what i mean those that were

4201
02:57:56,309 --> 02:57:55,279
involved in those would have to go to

4202
02:57:59,269 --> 02:57:56,319
those

4203
02:58:00,790 --> 02:57:59,279
and make some sort of uh you know

4204
02:58:03,110 --> 02:58:00,800
kind of you know

4205
02:58:04,710 --> 02:58:03,120
comforting secession you know they were

4206
02:58:06,870 --> 02:58:04,720
going to have to you know

4207
02:58:07,910 --> 02:58:06,880
reach out in that way but that's just

4208
02:58:09,349 --> 02:58:07,920
i mean

4209
02:58:12,469 --> 02:58:09,359
that's just

4210
02:58:14,070 --> 02:58:12,479
on a if they're benevolent you know like

4211
02:58:15,830 --> 02:58:14,080
if they're if they're

4212
02:58:17,750 --> 02:58:15,840
peaceful

4213
02:58:19,429 --> 02:58:17,760
well why wouldn't they be why wouldn't

4214
02:58:21,830 --> 02:58:19,439
they be peaceful

4215
02:58:23,990 --> 02:58:21,840
i mean it look i mean it's the obvious

4216
02:58:25,670 --> 02:58:24,000
thing race they weren't peaceful we

4217
02:58:27,349 --> 02:58:25,680
would know about it i wouldn't be

4218
02:58:29,990 --> 02:58:27,359
talking true i wouldn't be talking to

4219
02:58:33,510 --> 02:58:30,000
you right now that's that's not true

4220
02:58:35,110 --> 02:58:33,520
you know be i've never been to i have

4221
02:58:36,790 --> 02:58:35,120
never been to

4222
02:58:39,269 --> 02:58:36,800
australia

4223
02:58:42,309 --> 02:58:39,279
but it's just right around the corner

4224
02:58:44,309 --> 02:58:42,319
you know as a crow flies here on earth

4225
02:58:45,590 --> 02:58:44,319
so who's to say

4226
02:58:48,309 --> 02:58:45,600
that there's not

4227
02:58:50,070 --> 02:58:48,319
there's some not so friendly

4228
02:58:52,230 --> 02:58:50,080
entities out there

4229
02:58:53,590 --> 02:58:52,240
that show up on our block for the first

4230
02:58:55,750 --> 02:58:53,600
time ever

4231
02:58:58,469 --> 02:58:55,760
oh that's a different story

4232
02:59:01,510 --> 02:58:58,479
or that that i'm talking about through

4233
02:59:02,550 --> 02:59:01,520
uh our own history

4234
02:59:04,630 --> 02:59:02,560
uh

4235
02:59:06,790 --> 02:59:04,640
if if there was going to be

4236
02:59:09,429 --> 02:59:06,800
yeah if there was going to be a takeover

4237
02:59:11,349 --> 02:59:09,439
planet earth it would be very easy for

4238
02:59:13,429 --> 02:59:11,359
e.t to do

4239
02:59:15,190 --> 02:59:13,439
it's a no-brainer well you know for my

4240
02:59:17,429 --> 02:59:15,200
wife

4241
02:59:19,429 --> 02:59:17,439
for l.a marzulli and quite a few others

4242
02:59:22,790 --> 02:59:19,439
that have you know a religious

4243
02:59:24,790 --> 02:59:22,800
connotation all this aspect to it and i

4244
02:59:27,269 --> 02:59:24,800
for it

4245
02:59:28,389 --> 02:59:27,279
the bible talks about

4246
02:59:30,950 --> 02:59:28,399
the nephilim

4247
02:59:32,630 --> 02:59:30,960
and they're they've been banished to

4248
02:59:34,230 --> 02:59:32,640
this planet

4249
02:59:37,030 --> 02:59:34,240
and

4250
02:59:38,389 --> 02:59:37,040
they're not allowed

4251
02:59:41,110 --> 02:59:38,399
by god

4252
02:59:43,349 --> 02:59:41,120
to interact with us or or to to mess

4253
02:59:46,550 --> 02:59:43,359
with us in any way demons

4254
02:59:49,269 --> 02:59:46,560
and the devil let's say that they're not

4255
02:59:51,269 --> 02:59:49,279
they're not to you know to to to

4256
02:59:52,070 --> 02:59:51,279
interfere with us at all

4257
02:59:54,790 --> 02:59:52,080
so

4258
02:59:57,750 --> 02:59:54,800
you know what's to say that maybe

4259
03:00:02,630 --> 02:59:57,760
there's some

4260
03:00:04,950 --> 03:00:02,640
maybe those ancient writings and those

4261
03:00:07,429 --> 03:00:04,960
those stories that have been handed down

4262
03:00:10,550 --> 03:00:07,439
verbally and through written

4263
03:00:12,469 --> 03:00:10,560
texts don't have some sort of element of

4264
03:00:14,309 --> 03:00:12,479
reality to it

4265
03:00:16,469 --> 03:00:14,319
i mean these these things are obviously

4266
03:00:18,309 --> 03:00:16,479
around us they're obviously not out

4267
03:00:21,269 --> 03:00:18,319
front and in the wide open

4268
03:00:23,429 --> 03:00:21,279
so what do we do we try to wrap a human

4269
03:00:25,510 --> 03:00:23,439
experience around it to come up with

4270
03:00:27,990 --> 03:00:25,520
some sort of a solution or an answer and

4271
03:00:29,269 --> 03:00:28,000
i don't think that that's a possibility

4272
03:00:32,309 --> 03:00:29,279
right i don't think

4273
03:00:34,230 --> 03:00:32,319
that you can wrap a human uh

4274
03:00:36,309 --> 03:00:34,240
example

4275
03:00:40,070 --> 03:00:36,319
around how you know a sort of a

4276
03:00:42,469 --> 03:00:40,080
hypothesis a human a human theory

4277
03:00:43,910 --> 03:00:42,479
around something that is absolutely not

4278
03:00:46,630 --> 03:00:43,920
human

4279
03:00:48,630 --> 03:00:46,640
and so we we only

4280
03:00:50,630 --> 03:00:48,640
throw things to the wall and

4281
03:00:52,550 --> 03:00:50,640
and to see what we think would stick

4282
03:00:55,190 --> 03:00:52,560
it's not what sticks because we don't

4283
03:00:56,630 --> 03:00:55,200
know from our point of view from our

4284
03:00:58,790 --> 03:00:56,640
perspective yeah that makes a lot of

4285
03:01:00,550 --> 03:00:58,800
sense race hey man thanks for hanging

4286
03:01:02,870 --> 03:01:00,560
out tonight and doing this little

4287
03:01:05,190 --> 03:01:02,880
post-game wrap-up man we got to do this

4288
03:01:07,030 --> 03:01:05,200
more often i really enjoy it i love it i

4289
03:01:09,110 --> 03:01:07,040
enjoy it it's always an honor to be on

4290
03:01:10,870 --> 03:01:09,120
your program jimmy thank you so much

4291
03:01:12,710 --> 03:01:10,880
race raise hobbs

4292
03:01:14,309 --> 03:01:12,720
that's the uh that's the head cook

4293
03:01:16,150 --> 03:01:14,319
that's the chief bottle washer right

4294
03:01:18,389 --> 03:01:16,160
there on x right there

4295
03:01:21,670 --> 03:01:18,399
and uh thank you so much race behave and

4296
03:01:24,710 --> 03:01:21,680
be well i'll speak to you first thing

4297
03:01:26,710 --> 03:01:24,720
that will wrap another episode of fade

4298
03:01:28,230 --> 03:01:26,720
to black i do want to thank james fox

4299
03:01:29,750 --> 03:01:28,240
for coming in tonight what a great

4300
03:01:33,030 --> 03:01:29,760
conversation

4301
03:01:34,550 --> 03:01:33,040
and uh the the new film from james is

4302
03:01:37,030 --> 03:01:34,560
called moment

4303
03:01:39,190 --> 03:01:37,040
of contact

4304
03:01:40,870 --> 03:01:39,200
that was a great conversation tonight

4305
03:01:42,630 --> 03:01:40,880
thank you race hobbs fade to black is

4306
03:01:45,269 --> 03:01:42,640
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4307
03:01:48,309 --> 03:01:45,279
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4308
03:01:50,469 --> 03:01:48,319
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4309
03:01:52,550 --> 03:01:50,479
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4310
03:01:54,790 --> 03:01:52,560
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4311
03:01:56,309 --> 03:01:54,800
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4312
03:01:58,469 --> 03:01:56,319
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4313
03:01:59,830 --> 03:01:58,479
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4314
03:02:02,150 --> 03:01:59,840
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4315
03:02:03,830 --> 03:02:02,160
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4316
03:02:05,429 --> 03:02:03,840
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4317
03:02:06,710 --> 03:02:05,439
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4318
03:02:08,309 --> 03:02:06,720
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4319
03:02:10,870 --> 03:02:08,319
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4320
03:02:14,309 --> 03:02:10,880
church tomorrow night is fader night

4321
03:02:18,790 --> 03:02:14,319
open lines all night long

4322
03:02:22,010 --> 03:02:18,800
until then i want everybody to be safe

4323
03:02:33,910 --> 03:02:22,020
it's time to fade to black

4324
03:02:46,310 --> 03:02:36,310
so